Received: from localhost ([::1]:47286 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1ciViz-0000qb-Uo; Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:33:05 -0800 Received: from mail-ua0-f174.google.com ([209.85.217.174]:33156) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1ciVit-0000pj-UO for llg-members@lojban.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:33:03 -0800 Received: by mail-ua0-f174.google.com with SMTP id x24so1034056uab.0 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:32:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=4i9AP+ezQBBRwrPmDhFhC5fmc2wXaiFFgIgU2dvgEck=; b=meS/nNR2UGS1Rm1J2oWr1YeXDFoe1CwUyOCbR6k4+H+LUEnCsJLDpoSMUEIjFCTdcp V7fUbDx+p8W7HoHBxozuKDqBsmLMostJYzSFcEE3XTIdQs4QV/IS3sgXPn1SSMUsnHY7 mTJMKhH7tBweTjxREQ/SWwpVrCsFJoatXtVErWtZkFWLZ0cBLaqQUQrQH00T2xJ4pAj5 kC0vQxSZqBTx0w1d+iC8FqUeN5VdBmchODryI0XTDE4ViVPV7sQpgyzwr44dauow8gAA zX3hIvmBUrESAOzBhR4/eSZczK7s2xbOgxEjRCfH+J8Nz9QcVZop8ioSjp40xfJIEgB2 SDJA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=4i9AP+ezQBBRwrPmDhFhC5fmc2wXaiFFgIgU2dvgEck=; b=YVfasUT6ZXyghXik8VzQuaLIgOZn9+Tln2km+TfjRfdizVmT6e8iE7O31n/FK4kex5 t6rBtTTMCJXyJ8/kXV3ms9aiq7FcmIB/Dp8pLwz+avp0YG4bEVLP/uoa2EiPUNuXhZr0 oTYmLbwFalOrBb//TW/9nUJY3302uhNbTNhlRbs9QwexjHJ4dLQExXHv1xpBXRGHdV2H M8i1BGeqHYO4AUfYWodAG5QM7/9JLEsm605OMEs/QMRuyIvmok3RscLHbnU9dYiemhU/ L1K5crTNBOIiE3UPekIG3auJdKgfPWdQNCIxD/jn5qXlZ+Hh9VQ/KA9QIrPtkGaaQXV9 5IFg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39mZNHOAUmjDn47bjPzVrErNavcorvrRmVvTyl2kV5oNsSRa1Ic442/qR34mXLFn2SFIdK13wY7dxaDBiA== X-Received: by 10.31.8.199 with SMTP id 190mr6674173vki.158.1488241973103; Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:32:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.159.34.232 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:32:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.159.34.232 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:32:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <84FF782F-C682-4563-82B6-8850202416C2@gmail.com> References: <84FF782F-C682-4563-82B6-8850202416C2@gmail.com> From: Curtis Franks Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 19:32:52 -0500 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] 2016 Annual Meeting of the Logical Language Group, Inc. - call to order and roll call X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5145656435006350495==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============5145656435006350495== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1144f3482594fc05498c56b1 --001a1144f3482594fc05498c56b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, I meant to second that too. So, I do so now and vote in favor for it when the time comes. On Feb 27, 2017 19:28, "Riley Martinez-Lynch" wrote: > I apologize for the late response, but I am back from my latest trip, and > would like to remain on the Board. > > I would like to second the nomination of Thomas Porter / cizypij as a > member. > > I will follow up shortly with an officer=E2=80=99s report. > > =E2=80=94Riley > > > On Feb 19, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > > > > On 2/5/2017 7:13 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > >> On 1/23/2017 3:06 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > >>> Next on the agenda are the minutes from last meeting. Our Secretary > >>> (mukti) is traveling out of this country for the next week or so, so = I > >>> will defer that item until he returns. > >>> > >>> Next we have reports of Officers and committees. Again, we will have > to > >>> wait for mukti to post the Treasurers report after his return. > >> > >> I had hoped mukti would be back by now, and would have posted the abov= e, > >> but it seems not to be the case. In order to move the meeting along, = I > >> will suggest that someone move that we defer these items until the 201= 7 > >> meeting. > > > > mukti is back, but has apparently not had time to post these. Bu there > has been no motion to defer them to the next meeting. > > > > I'm not sure if it is legal, but I guess I can rule from the chair to > defer to the next meeting, so as to move the meeting forward. I'd prefer= a > motion though, and will allow a few days more before I play dictator. > > > >> One of mukti's suggestions for expediting future meetings, so that the= y > >> don't last for months, is that whereever possible, motions are present= ed > >> in advance of the (next) meeting and discussed on various forums > >> (including the members list, but also IRC and whatever else people wan= t > >> to try), before they are formally raised at the meeting. > > > > This is being discussed, but I don't intend to hold up the meeting unti= l > that discussion completes, since it isn't really in order at this point i= n > the agenda. (But I won't tell people to stop discussing it) > > > >> I suspect that > >> some of the things suggested by the byfy chair in his report would bes= t > >> be discussed in the context of such motions as would support their > >> implementation. selpa'i, could you prepare such motions, and post the= m > >> when appropriate. (in the current suggestion, I suspect that we can > >> have such motions posted as new business, and at the same time tabled > >> until the next meeting. Or just post them for discussion now while we > >> are still on reports. > > > > Not necessarily applicable until new business. > > > >>> After we get done with all reports, we will call for new members, and > >>> elect a new Board of Directors. > >> > >> It is not clear that all reports that will be made are completed, but = in > >> the interests of moving the meeting along, I call for people wishing t= o > >> become members to speak up now, (along with any proposals by others fo= r > >> people not currently present to become members - we will need to get > >> them to state that they wish to be members, and get them added to this > >> mailing list). > > > > There have been no volunteers or proposals for new members. > > > >> I will allow another week for any additional reports, as well as motio= ns > >> regarding deferring of minutes and reports (which motions can be > >> seconded without waiting for me). Then we will act on any motions as > >> appropriate and approve those new members. > > > > There are no such motions. > > > > OK. I will allow up until end of day next Friday (24 Feb) for any > memberships to be considered prior to the Board. > > > > I will also consider all reports that *have* been made so far to have > been submitted for member acceptance, and they will be considered accepte= d > without formal motion if there is no objection prior to end of day next > Friday. > > > > In the absence of minutes or other reports or motions deferring them > until the next meeting by end of day next Friday, I will rule from the > chair to do so as stated above. > > > >> Then Board elections, > > > > Nominations and/or volunteers for the new Board are now in order. The > existing Board can be proposed as a slate if someone would so move, but I > would still like each Board member to post and state that they want to > remain on the Board. The existing Board (informally named) are: lojbab, > Karen, Curtis, gleki, selpa'i, mukti, and Ali. > > > > I would like all such nominations and volunteering to also all be poste= d > by end of day Friday. Then when I post next weekend after that deadline, > we can have the Board election, and then perhaps quickly wrap up the > meeting. > > > > And my usual: > > If for whatever reason I have not posted again *by end of day Monday (2= 7 > Feb)*, > > I ask the VP to assume the chair and attempt to move the > > meeting onward, in line with the above and the Bylaw-directed agenda. > > > > lojbab > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Llg-members mailing list > > Llg-members@lojban.org > > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --001a1144f3482594fc05498c56b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh, I meant to second that too. So, I do so now and vote = in favor for it when the time comes.

On Feb 27, 2017 19:28, "Riley Martinez-Lynch&= quot; <shunpiker@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
I apologize= for the late response, but I am back from my latest trip, and would like t= o remain on the Board.

I would like to second the nomination of Thomas Porter / cizypij as a membe= r.

I will follow up shortly with an officer=E2=80=99s report.

=E2=80=94Riley

> On Feb 19, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
>
> On 2/5/2017 7:13 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
>> On 1/23/2017 3:06 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
>>> Next on the agenda are the minutes from last meeting.=C2=A0 Ou= r Secretary
>>> (mukti) is traveling out of this country for the next week or = so, so I
>>> will defer that item until he returns.
>>>
>>> Next we have reports of Officers and committees.=C2=A0 Again, = we will have to
>>> wait for mukti to post the Treasurers report after his return.=
>>
>> I had hoped mukti would be back by now, and would have posted the = above,
>> but it seems not to be the case.=C2=A0 In order to move the meetin= g along, I
>> will suggest that someone move that we defer these items until the= 2017
>> meeting.
>
> mukti is back, but has apparently not had time to post these.=C2=A0 Bu= there has been no motion to defer them to the next meeting.
>
> I'm not sure if it is legal, but I guess I can rule from the chair= to defer to the next meeting, so as to move the meeting forward.=C2=A0 I&#= 39;d prefer a motion though, and will allow a few days more before I play d= ictator.
>
>> One of mukti's suggestions for expediting future meetings, so = that they
>> don't last for months, is that whereever possible, motions are= presented
>> in advance of the (next) meeting and discussed on various forums >> (including the members list, but also IRC and whatever else people= want
>> to try), before they are formally raised at the meeting.
>
> This is being discussed, but I don't intend to hold up the meeting= until that discussion completes, since it isn't really in order at thi= s point in the agenda. (But I won't tell people to stop discussing it)<= br> >
>> I suspect that
>> some of the things suggested by the byfy chair in his report would= best
>> be discussed in the context of such motions as would support their=
>> implementation.=C2=A0 selpa'i, could you prepare such motions,= and post them
>> when appropriate.=C2=A0 (in the current suggestion, I suspect that= we can
>> have such motions posted as new business, and at the same time tab= led
>> until the next meeting.=C2=A0 Or just post them for discussion now= while we
>> are still on reports.
>
> Not necessarily applicable until new business.
>
>>> After we get done with all reports, we will call for new membe= rs, and
>>> elect a new Board of Directors.
>>
>> It is not clear that all reports that will be made are completed, = but in
>> the interests of moving the meeting along, I call for people wishi= ng to
>> become members to speak up now, (along with any proposals by other= s for
>> people not currently present to become members - we will need to g= et
>> them to state that they wish to be members, and get them added to = this
>> mailing list).
>
> There have been no volunteers or proposals for new members.
>
>> I will allow another week for any additional reports, as well as m= otions
>> regarding deferring of minutes and reports (which motions can be >> seconded without waiting for me).=C2=A0 Then we will act on any mo= tions as
>> appropriate and approve those new members.
>
> There are no such motions.
>
> OK. I will allow up until end of day next Friday (24 Feb) for any memb= erships to be considered prior to the Board.
>
> I will also consider all reports that *have* been made so far to have = been submitted for member acceptance, and they will be considered accepted = without formal motion if there is no objection prior to end of day next Fri= day.
>
> In the absence of minutes or other reports or motions deferring them u= ntil the next meeting by end of day next Friday, I will rule from the chair= to do so as stated above.
>
>> Then Board elections,
>
> Nominations and/or volunteers for the new Board are now in order.=C2= =A0 The existing Board can be proposed as a slate if someone would so move,= but I would still like each Board member to post and state that they want = to remain on the Board.=C2=A0 The existing Board (informally named) are: lo= jbab, Karen, Curtis, gleki, selpa'i, mukti, and Ali.
>
> I would like all such nominations and volunteering to also all be post= ed by end of day Friday.=C2=A0 Then when I post next weekend after that dea= dline, we can have the Board election, and then perhaps quickly wrap up the= meeting.
>
> And my usual:
> If for whatever reason I have not posted again *by end of day Monday (= 27 Feb)*,
> I ask the VP to assume the chair and attempt to move the
> meeting onward, in line with the above and the Bylaw-directed agenda.<= br> >
> lojbab
>
>
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