Received: from localhost ([::1]:43926 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dL2MR-0003Zz-H0; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 00:05:03 -0700 Received: from mail-qt0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]:32923) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dL2MP-0003Yq-5o for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 00:05:02 -0700 Received: by mail-qt0-f174.google.com with SMTP id u12so197677312qth.0 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 00:05:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=VdyqjLnaMcE01UGufN93poErMRzlHfRAf0yF8iUJp9o=; b=B95lEU0l0k7DqHShTVA9374k7xdo6I9VaJqvW14/L0fqhufocVv8sWvFe/9ecOgrdY RNSrgN2o145SFOBwhM6MHyXAy0idkFOHGWpjoxNcSPdo4xK6XyL8AD18bcaQJd8GXRy6 DLWyUyVSSdr3uWUTnN7mInDIIfqQmIcE6ys8uhuKJWsbNbsCNMV4H5y55Y//JaV1S8nZ /PUbtLUn+YiC3CD+j81p+ZQngjs0oWFa0XQZEBs+t7DBKCtqt8yfXhjJq/14G97/ssxP E6lgbtJugWzdcHXftnkgH2CDqNBwayJOtXwmjydGAUA2jy0uVKiyKTxP/AgAIYSABTIG 3Z1w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=VdyqjLnaMcE01UGufN93poErMRzlHfRAf0yF8iUJp9o=; b=cw4xBmTDnKkgjEm7aEjITANbsAbbRr2p9meOFVfBJVdh6vqRlR/idXeQYtlBvhzgQx ResgQFE+NOg+R8oLydkEPSaohALeDaEGkBKDDrSxHOfOE8rFSQ4J/TesV+bU/tg/3tTA QDL792UsJ3XWmqOXictmYoO1z9pal1NfS5BKqAVv68yc/s3IjwnnPu9s3lqxumVdk2xs xm+9hLM4IQACgOcxAbfERA2y/F8YfqJN9xlz3XKjtmIJ72yRK3A+4kBjCpYo7CXyAQgW rG5O20zQ17UGiWcbAS5Q309QLoss9ttgRCOqsqqcxrKqYAhpeA88V6II64wTwojiVR4M VOHw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOx2glYmrzExE65d6kcdWhAfEuLrfKn5mXcBJhi1wewySu0iXG/S KMCeV70M0gFyUH9PPBqu6fLY5Jf6Bw== X-Received: by 10.237.45.3 with SMTP id h3mr5239220qtd.57.1497423894661; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 00:04:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.83.203 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 00:04:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8867137B-D6FF-4A51-A865-D40F0047584E@gmail.com> References: <8867137B-D6FF-4A51-A865-D40F0047584E@gmail.com> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 10:04:14 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Ask for translative permission #256 X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1496467413729097643==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============1496467413729097643== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c124cb851ce7e0551e62bf6" --94eb2c124cb851ce7e0551e62bf6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2017-06-14 6:31 GMT+03:00 Karen Stein : > I don't know the legal answer to this, and would like it clarified here > and to the board if anyone knows the answer, or whom to ask at least. > > One issue that saying they do not need approval or even the notice > included raises is what is and is not official. It becomes even more > important if/when a new version such as this becomes part of the online CLL > offerings as they are generally considered to be official and therefore > approved. > > .karis. (Karen Stein) > President, LLG > Don't forget to offer them LLG membership when they finish :) > > On June 13, 2017 7:40:20 PM EDT, guskant wrote: >> >> I replied to the issue as follows: >> >> --- my reply from here --- >> As written in Chapter 1 Section 8, you don't need permission for >> translating the CLL. The part >> "[...] this permission notice may be stated in a translation that has >> been approved by the Logical Language Group, rather than in English." >> states only an optional permission about the permission notice itself >> in Chapter 1 Section 8. Moreover, that permission notice _may_ (not >> "must") be written in any language other than English, and that part >> _may_ be approved by the Logical Language Group. >> --- end of my reply --- >> >> If the translator requires approval of the translated permission >> notice by the LLG, we can check and approve the translated permission >> notice on this mailing list. That part is not very long, and I have >> skill of verifying texts in Chinese or some other languages. >> >> mi'e la guskant >> >> >> 2017-06-13 6:30 GMT+00:00 Gleki Arxokuna : >> >>> https://github.com/lojban/cll/issues/256 >>> >>> How do we even approve their translation once it's complete (partially >>> complete)? >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Llg-members mailing list >>> Llg-members@lojban.org >>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --94eb2c124cb851ce7e0551e62bf6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-06-14 6:31 GMT+03:00 Karen Stein <comcaresvcs@gmail.com&g= t;:
I don't know the lega= l answer to this, and would like it clarified here and to the board if anyo= ne knows the answer, or whom to ask at least.

One issue that saying they do not need approval or even the notice included= raises is what is and is not official. It becomes even more important if/w= hen a new version such as this becomes part of the online CLL offerings as = they are generally considered to be official and therefore approved.

.karis. (Karen Stein)
President, LLG

Don't forget t= o offer them LLG membership when they finish :)
=C2=A0

On June 13, 2017 7:40:20 PM EDT, guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com> wrote:
I replied to t=
he issue as follows:

--- my reply from here ---
As written in Cha=
pter 1 Section 8, you don't need permission for
translating the CLL.=
 The part
"[...] this permission notice may be stated in a translat=
ion that has
been approved by the Logical Language Group, rather than in=
 English."
states only an optional permission about the permission =
notice itself
in Chapter 1 Section 8. Moreover, that permission notice _=
may_ (not
"must") be written in any language other than Englis=
h, and that part
_may_ be approved by the Logical Language Group.
---=
 end of my reply ---

If the translator requires approval of the tran=
slated permission
notice by the LLG, we can check and approve the transl=
ated permission
notice on this mailing list. That part is not very long,=
 and I have
skill of verifying texts in Chinese or some other languages.=


mi'e la guskant


2017-06-13 6:30 GMT+00:00 Gleki Arxo=
kuna <gleki.is.my.=
name@gmail.com>:<=
br>
 https://gi=
thub.com/lojban/cll/issues/256

 How do we even approve thei=
r translation once it's complete (partially
 complete)?


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