Received: from localhost ([::1]:40924 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dol2g-00009l-P6; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 23:39:30 -0700 Received: from mail-wm0-f41.google.com ([74.125.82.41]:36051) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dol29-000082-8E for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 23:38:58 -0700 Received: by mail-wm0-f41.google.com with SMTP id i145so13707455wmf.1 for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 23:38:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=D3XYWlaG/BvoSBcyaVg7vNHfC9mV/miP3Vzbumv09GA=; b=HISZ7JaErpCPMmkvmTH68S2rcM9uaFa0kVhwdric5a15DVzFk2JVC7t0es4Uc5zhDX vqFHbs4lXu5cyvboGel92ePky+wwE8jAtIEZx6IR1hieeJnRS5FvOuJ3LOStgcdOqoE/ YjqJFLn9mDVEG3/rtnCIBUl+mCG7BtnbxoaIXiB0g0OB15NjtaApOO6f/Cnfw37oCHT6 fU/sbnL0FCWyqlbL6kgkuw55pPg6MOUbWxoBz3iU5MTfKvbHsOET4u9LUR00ikkQaXEr 9FJIs0EuXBzAmfZu+ZU21+XRh6T2CgLR3MjDSirVhNiJHMh9f3C1HNRp17Nz0hJpbWxc PFLA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=D3XYWlaG/BvoSBcyaVg7vNHfC9mV/miP3Vzbumv09GA=; b=K+q6IJHOh2Ur+EjOCmgEnPS6xxyQkFfpnwqRMBeLoFSDGhDAUh9EdNA6gdMMiSrLk4 JuY+v2u6w88Dxb7gSNwArN+/7t738pbZ6NtlSnCsEPQlzkTyCOQhbs83AHxgsMMKeyOY IQ+y61D2uZ6Pb6zze6EJ9HNAfR7q9M1CzeczzukZNoHxQiAGOykFXTLmTaGsSBOakwgs yW1p0ovlRvQWsgpZS5ZdEEiuyfsvB+DXIWgdIuPsRJzOrw77KccrJCLkZJPhNsXeJcC8 pr8eHB29xIVzRNNR+OEjsUJAfofk2sOi9cLx8UQzgiyQBMulgLkftvhyx/Ji+jwagJCD DGCQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUixLVlyYw95QgTvm2Ke9aVnFWse4yLfksA6YDkpKFHQtrhnyUj3 HXjar/Zrn4qj0OIaYLU85Hu3KqwrHZE6 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb6SkHpUmDk68p8RBgiq7YVf3vJcN36Dv3Ax1ZXA3RV3nhij64ms2n77yHtnQuKqqsroT4g6XW8nfDlDuZkFIHg= X-Received: by 10.80.164.72 with SMTP id v8mr8206923edb.103.1504507130260; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 23:38:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.241.210 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2017 23:38:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 09:38:09 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] September X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7055200406909524334==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============7055200406909524334== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c0eef8a0fb8400558575d66" --94eb2c0eef8a0fb8400558575d66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2017-09-01 18:36 GMT+03:00 guskant : > 2017-09-01 11:13 GMT+00:00 Gleki Arxokuna : > > September, still nothing. > > > > Anyway I support the idea by la guskant to make a static version of an > > official LLG website. > > Obviously, there needs to be someone to write the text. > > is la guskant willing to write something? > > > > Do you mean the text on the front page of the new website, > announcement on the current mediawiki, or something else? > I mean a completely new website. Where the text would be approved by LLG explicitly. As for the current mediawiki I have no suggestions. P.S. The recent problems with mediawiki is because Robin or other people with permissions upgraded something (probably PHP) on the server and the current installation of mediawiki appeared to be incompatible with it. I'm trying to provide Robin with fixes and they are massive; we haven't been updating mediawiki for 2 years. As you can see Robin is making a new repo https://github.com/lojban/mediawiki-docker that would let us avoid such incompatibility issues in future. Also we have been hacked and it could be so that vulnerability is due to issues with mediawiki core. > > My last motion included the following text, in which I did not suggest > any new text for the new website, but for the current mediawiki: > > 2017-02-20 10:23 GMT+00:00 guskant : > > The official body should remove all the official contents defined > > below from *.lojban.org, and liberate the whole server *.lojban.org to > > community volunteers. The removed contents should be put on another > > website, and should be kept neat and updated by the official body > > itself. Each web page of the contents left on *.lojban.org should > > include disclaimer that the website is owned and managed by voluntary > > people, and that the contents are not necessarily harmonized with the > > official design of Lojban. > > If the motion is adopted, I will write any text required, but the text > needs to be approved by LLG members before being put in public. > > > > As for hosting I suggest for anything (preferably free of charge, github > > pages ... whatever). > > As for CMS I suggest for anything simple. Github hosts many static > website > > generators. > > > > I would suggest using jekyll on github. > https://github.com/jekyll/jekyll > > I used that for my recent personal work for visually disabled Japanese > speakers, and it seems to work fine: > https://guskant.github.io/accessible/ > > > mi'e la guskant > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --94eb2c0eef8a0fb8400558575d66 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-09-01 18:36 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com><= /span>:
2017-09-01 11:13 GMT+00:00 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>:
> September, still nothing.
>
> Anyway I support the idea by la guskant to make a static version of an=
> official LLG website.
> Obviously, there needs to be someone to write the text.
> is la guskant willing to write something?
>

Do you mean the text on the front page of the new website,
announcement on the current mediawiki, or something else?
<= div>
I mean a completely new website. Where the text would be= approved by LLG explicitly.
As for the current mediawiki I have = no suggestions.

P.S. The recent problems with medi= awiki is because Robin or other people with permissions upgraded something = (probably PHP) on the server and the current installation of mediawiki appe= ared to be incompatible with it. I'm trying to provide Robin with fixes= and they are massive; we haven't been updating mediawiki for 2 years. = As you can see Robin is making a new repo=C2=A0https://github.com/lojban/mediawiki-docker t= hat would let us avoid such incompatibility issues in future. Also we have = been hacked and it could be so that vulnerability is due to issues with med= iawiki core.=C2=A0
=C2=A0

My last motion included the following text, in which I did not suggest
any new text for the new website, but for the current mediawiki:

2017-02-20 10:23 GMT+00:00 guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com>:
> The official body should remove all the official contents defined
> below from *.lojban.org, and liberate the whole server *.lojban.org to
> community volunteers. The removed contents should be put on another > website, and should be kept neat and updated by the official body
> itself. Each web page of the contents left on *.lojban.org should
> include disclaimer that the website is owned and managed by voluntary<= br> > people, and that the contents are not necessarily harmonized with the<= br> > official design of Lojban.

If the motion is adopted, I will write any text required, but the text
needs to be approved by LLG members before being put in public.


> As for hosting I suggest for anything (preferably free of charge, gith= ub
> pages ... whatever).
> As for CMS I suggest for anything simple. Github hosts many static web= site
> generators.
>

I would suggest using jekyll on github.
https://github.com/jekyll/jekyll

I used that for my recent personal work for visually disabled Japanese
speakers, and it seems to work fine:
https://guskant.github.io/accessible/


mi'e la guskant

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