Received: from localhost ([::1]:45250 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dzePr-0003r4-K1; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 00:48:27 -0700 Received: from mail-wm0-f50.google.com ([74.125.82.50]:57177) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dzePM-0003ob-83 for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 00:47:57 -0700 Received: by mail-wm0-f50.google.com with SMTP id l68so7443532wmd.5 for ; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 00:47:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=cktNjlTAdWTWzOMSkICFPG2dkkeYp35qSO9TSLgzi8w=; b=kd7EC+gQ3rRNU9nSI2quDG5RUtI6udu5XvQG+8wyDoQ3ejTAZ8wKq3a1hVSVN7547+ Wc8JUxrKfeJtpW2PmjH2/suU916tBXCvwYCASnMVtiS1OxG+RUnmg1Zyv8Gu/gBVddeG xlya6JKugOzVzp23WLibcryUi1hKH9iKDm1liPhmBYL9KfXWExR0NPO6SpZRhmEN+04M UNNoK9XOiTS5m68niLAZmuZhqy99ZojEv11ci72R4f+MlI+x8z6RLKbAbx05XKA4/LP5 d9IhyePgNy6M43QdrChFQuh5qOh5lxQ5VVwEXnPrKaTkwDmPgkiTwmekPFfDKFiRHr8M XEIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=cktNjlTAdWTWzOMSkICFPG2dkkeYp35qSO9TSLgzi8w=; b=G0ggdgwbX5FxMa9+//psk9gAC+/xeBUZGXRat0ohAS6RoJxBfpONVUWbYgczFInxlf UlwtutM308/Na6wL0NlaleUdIPamRxHNDwe8SjOQ+fr9y8dm6S2IbLY7NW1F+iYu7cp2 quzbNHKLZnvUX3onWonMGFXq4LBP83MBLG6lIgnUgeROyjvu90Ni74hsc+tSX3XPBW2+ BkWnqM1oeftuPACF9o3tickOFB1He6VJiBYFyvfEwP/+9C+zFx2Ys6rVlBF9WDrJVCEm 7l2cGSx27MAEGl0+AnjYLGvKN5xPLZTDFzYnzO4069i5JJOqeVPnzp7h/GyYoozsldYs xibg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjrUlCs/sTBNhB3KWj3yDUg8Afq8AWocd/UV9HnNs24623P8zc3 xpd9/fK8xLPj+dq2Mf4mKu4r2YwQqn6bfEXkKA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QB1oA3L7kbHsqwk9A/6ui64rnHKGuBgT8TiQyZuRAh6jn0naJd+jAPJao7Pn8OAsKflOeDJr+nT6/lVl2giqcg= X-Received: by 10.80.213.77 with SMTP id f13mr27646563edj.225.1507103269399; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 00:47:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.163.137 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 00:47:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 10:47:08 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: [Llg-members] Old business. Lojban as a speakable language X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5098580593468944998==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============5098580593468944998== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c1afb420331aa055ab3d389" --94eb2c1afb420331aa055ab3d389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Not a proposal. Just notes. Or the meeting will be super boring, pei. Preliminary resume of year 2016/2017. Lojban is definitely out of its grammar+isolated words and more and more into set phrases level. One of the finished projects https://mw.lojban.org/papri/N-grams_of_Lojban_corpus shows versatility of common patterns that can be explained only by the fact that it is used by live humans that develop certain trends in the community. As for the number of speakers three gateways extending IRC chat into three other closed networks + their slight advertising resulted in 1. ~200 members in #ckule / #lojban channels on Telegram 2. ~200 people registered on Lojban Slack 3. some fewer members registered on Discord probably because the bridge appeared much later. This as well as stats from IRC provide not much data because we can't say how many new Lojbanists we got due to the very different nature of each of these networks. Other separate channels: 3. Facebook group is more or less active. At least there are questions on Lojban every week. 4. Voice chats in Mumble happen regularly every week. I can't say that there is any observable trend in raising the number of active (that is speaking) Lojbanists per week but there is definitely no decline. --94eb2c1afb420331aa055ab3d389 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Not a proposal. Just notes. Or the mee= ting will be super boring, pei.

Preliminary resume of y= ear 2016/2017.

Lojban is definitely out of its grammar+i= solated words and more and more into set phrases level.

One of the finished projects

shows = versatility of common patterns that can be explained only by the fact that = it is used by live humans that develop certain trends in the community.

As for the number of speakers
three gateway= s extending IRC chat into three other closed networks=C2=A0
+ their sli= ght advertising=C2=A0
resulted in
1. ~200 members in #ckule /= #lojban channels on Telegram
2. ~200 people registered on = Lojban Slack
3. some fewer members registered on Discord probably= because the bridge appeared much later.

This as w= ell as stats from IRC provide not much data because we can't say how ma= ny new Lojbanists we got due to the very different nature of each of these = networks.

Other separate channels:
3. Fa= cebook group is more or less active. At least there are questions on Lojban= every week.
4. Voice chats in Mumble happen regularly every week= .

I can't say that there is any observable tre= nd in raising the number of active (that is speaking) Lojbanists per week b= ut there is definitely no decline.

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