Received: from localhost ([::1]:39558 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e45Iy-0006lj-0C; Mon, 16 Oct 2017 06:19:40 -0700 Received: from mail-wm0-f50.google.com ([74.125.82.50]:46090) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e45IR-0006kY-Uk for llg-members@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2017 06:19:08 -0700 Received: by mail-wm0-f50.google.com with SMTP id m72so3223948wmc.1 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2017 06:19:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=U9px0drIKUO39EIjZdQKjLyIzbrmfHXxq3jdbwYSDZk=; b=agAMNV4ebjSleXj/B8UuJO6nVQ8oXNyYsMgr5orNMaJqpEd7MXWf+xBxZrtwWo58Gl 6swiXo1Ft8fStNMYzAAZuduuuOt1z63kuEodY/dwqbDvpAZq6xavmr1DBCJsyGpeO8OY PFZo6V43h86KNvIVFbfLETS2tA/o/q9K4s1LgTzI9sivRQPrF/yR+aseQnrcDcSBmk2R 0aqEHW8an3GR8yNXuLQB8jYToeAQi9W/fBu1KxeoGKJHdHOLe1NaZ+8d3EYwaN2tgBht lDJhQIMfDYo8dBGLrjOpRgssYQTRX/WbyFNJB7p0qPo6XNm+V4gyaPSkBbw6IN4urGDk HDKQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=U9px0drIKUO39EIjZdQKjLyIzbrmfHXxq3jdbwYSDZk=; b=W2NjNwk7o9MB4ICKRYzv2JeecIxgKxqSjDgz8iFeQ+N9k8moAJaIVxJlmIlhSxiuRF N3/AVzISZO47M2Kvt4Ju/Gv3t7EtC8qItaWS6WESkmxsQJmAS1Voqcj6Xpu0AhJOT6Dm e4Ylt9LfLag/ormu+onMeCx31ttnFYB4q7E4EpeeWBdo4xmZ6snXfGQw1VREYDCgE/dy HjagF6z8bGLVO80Qyzz5BCjO1b2SwWcF0vzlF/zHQbgQNlWrOCw/GiTY4y//d0mPW7Cz EfPCcHUov3Dbf1dgxp0HAnirtt6X4vH51l0VmqEm/q+qIubWOTZJaUUA2jJgnen4l/Sd tTKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUiY4NSz4sBCfNZJc1YENHaEoe89oJBuWxwo9RG2TxUffkRiRzv SVgU1wfmsLT/TZ47NKgM2QfnQS3ZHh/Oa4eIeFgt X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QBeiJml0qCoksE7I2eNAkO/gnY8VH10IPHl0kQgW8pBwIUHgJnmW6xjr1Q+dP9rTRNGF9IHfHCKPP6ghZv7Guk= X-Received: by 10.80.219.66 with SMTP id b2mr12933735edl.259.1508159940948; Mon, 16 Oct 2017 06:19:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.134.248 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2017 06:18:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 16:18:20 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Roll Call X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4234398676918769654==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============4234398676918769654== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403043e9de08b7a2c055ba9d9ee" --f403043e9de08b7a2c055ba9d9ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2017-10-16 15:11 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services : > > > On Oct 16, 2017 00:35, "Gleki Arxokuna" > wrote: > > > > 2017-10-15 22:44 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services : > >> Gleki, >> >> No, he's not the only person. >> > > Who else can? Do you have such rights? > > > As I understand it I can, and the vice president when asked by me. > > > >> It is, however, his job to record everything and this way we would know >> he was ready for the next part. We also need to know if he's present or if >> I need to ask someone else to do his job until he is. >> >> This is my first time running a meeting by listserv so I am feeling my >> way too. If you, or anyone else, have suggestions for how I can do a better >> job of it I am happy to get them. >> > > My only suggestion is not to wait for anyone but to conduct meetings as > quick as possible. > Waiting is the easiest task to do. > > > Not waiting at all means no quorum and no one else can participate exept > myself since I start the meetings. How long is long enough is the question > at the moment. Do you have a suggestion for this? > I mean X shouldn't wait for Y if X can do something themselves. If bylaws allow something to do faster then why not do it? E.g. 1. if X can indicate who is present X could do it immediately without waiting for Treasurer/President/Vice-President/.... 2. if X can announce the next stage of the meeting and this is according to bylaws then X could do it immediately without waiting for Treasurer/President/Vice-President/.... 3. If X can start a new meeting and e.g. this is welcomed by other members (e.g. informally) then X could do it immediately without waiting for anyone else. As for quorum it is required by bylaws in certain cases so no, I don't propose to override quorum or break any bylaws. > This meeting is moving faster since actually startingsince being started, > than lojbab was able recently, and I plan to keep it going. > Yes, it's faster but we are running out of time. > As far as I know, though, no side discussion of the topics that have been > presented is or has occurred. Am I correct? I'm not on all the groups > where it could be. > > > >> I am feeling my way, for instance, on how long is long enough for >> collecting responses, yet not extra long. There is definitely a learning >> curve and I expect a meeting with a much smoother and effective flow next >> time. >> >> . karis. >> >> On Oct 5, 2017 11:22, "Veijo Vilva" wrote: >> >>> mi zvati >>> >>> mi'e veion >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Llg-members mailing list >>> Llg-members@lojban.org >>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --f403043e9de08b7a2c055ba9d9ee Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-10-16 15:11 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services <= ;comcaresvcs@gma= il.com>:


On Oct 16, 2017 00:35, "Gleki Arxoku= na" <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:


2017-10-15 22:44 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services <c= omcaresvcs@gmail.com>:
Gleki,

No, he's not the only person.
Who else can? Do you have such rights?
=

As I understand it I can, and the vice president when asked = by me.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
It is, however, his job to record everything a= nd this way we would know he was ready for the next part. We also need to k= now if he's present or if I need to ask someone else to do his job unti= l he is.=C2=A0

This is m= y first time running a meeting by listserv so I am feeling my way too. If y= ou, or anyone else, have suggestions for how I can do a better job of it I = am happy to get them.

My only suggestion is not to wait for anyone but to conduct meetings as = quick as possible.
Waiting is the easiest task to do.=C2= =A0

Not waiting at all means no quorum and no one = else can participate exept myself since I start the meetings. How long is l= ong enough is the question at the moment. Do you have a suggestion for this= ?=C2=A0

I mean X shouldn't = wait for Y if X can do something themselves.

If by= laws allow something to do faster then why not do it?
E.g.
<= div>1. if X can indicate who is present X could do it immediately without w= aiting for Treasurer/President/Vice-President/....
2. if X can an= nounce the next stage of the meeting and this is according to bylaws then X= could do it immediately without waiting for Treasurer/President/Vice-Presi= dent/....
3. If X can start a new meeting and e.g. this is we= lcomed by other members (e.g. informally)=C2=A0then X could do it immediate= ly without waiting for anyone else.


As for quorum it is required by bylaws in certain cases so no, I don't= propose to override quorum or break any bylaws.

<= br>

This meeting is moving fast= er since actually startingsince being started, than lojbab was able recentl= y, and I plan to keep it going.

Yes, it's faster but we are running out of time.
=C2=A0
As far as I know, though, no side discussion of the topics tha= t have been presented is or has occurred. Am=C2=A0 I correct? I'm not o= n all the groups where it could be.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=
I am feeling my way,= for instance, on how long is long enough for collecting responses, yet not= extra long. There is definitely a learning curve and I expect a meeting wi= th a much smoother and effective flow next time.=C2=A0

. karis.=C2=A0

On Oct 5, 2017 11:22,= "Veijo Vilva" <veijo.vilva@gmail.com> wrote:
<= /span>
mi zvati

mi'e veion

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