Received: from localhost ([::1]:51600 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e5J2U-000315-0S; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:11:42 -0700 Received: from mail-ua0-f178.google.com ([209.85.217.178]:52875) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e5J1w-0002tb-Jc for llg-members@lojban.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:11:09 -0700 Received: by mail-ua0-f178.google.com with SMTP id i35so7079818uah.9 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:11:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=bL0fVv/5AzCPhlFXtfzKsoRwvAQzN9gZ+FzwA5+N5TA=; b=CVv/rYlm4+gIxRFWKlUev0cMgeE+lbYHl0ZLS4AwvrIbs4SLWdkXn5w1E06MlK7P/r zJaOdJVnMxWTkih0nIjTbbdX8iuJN9xnmXSEnQrZSRG/Y4addjZKK0AUTFn+HYZ2TxdX XtiB+s0KxRs4hFiUnpF3Yo0yw5CgXbRBONZyk9FgIaU1fLv6o/MI79+kD6sceAT0FL75 qorXXE6FRI1kQgwtlCQDn6K133qBB8Lluw+4Pr+E1rD8Rvzt6AYVwjyoaPR4fLutKfWg 15/XzUf6piHkS+sKLGfIIzGbV9gcf1upSsJb0tMRaC39fKsOjzEa9w/DE9vvdEW4wN3b MSiw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=bL0fVv/5AzCPhlFXtfzKsoRwvAQzN9gZ+FzwA5+N5TA=; b=FjXXPzkcaqWclJu39rZjZ/uKeXtk4O35AmM7WjPf+r+yvZj+fl+hN6zA7HuttEcOU1 zazbHx1Di6F1J/89kHMTlntZVGINw5RBk07rI2nyh0uiGJothwusYL07pLc8Rwb3O6LZ RDv0pv904qTdcGEpXLBBODhLW5YD92AlSPMvfKGj6cwPrGEGA+rfgsKmWe5UskoWxf8I auilLRthZPfPvTwjat/EUjicB890jyqiSBpEJJuwNC9EtJL2fjUf9TkyAcvOEJz8WiJe UohH4oXB2eL1ssN8UOt6yBc/Ft2z0wlJPr2Gt98y9zS7F7QYqQnx+dZd9mRRWtsnFBT5 L15Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUARwkGdB1tdS5b55JGBBsco53fgF7JMi/7KY9uX3sKUNwtZNc0 PgDBFjRZmwGR7nksOC9hBGwWrFa+qp3hyNEcwGW9Ow== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SYKqsrsWPOnRGA/yxpbtfUc6NtMsKceUzVdiFfRiGHaudtzd7h7fZMAT1foKZhYo+yqTdH7QOhLQ1TLhEeAZQ= X-Received: by 10.176.25.43 with SMTP id v43mr2501467uag.54.1508451062122; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:11:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.3.229 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:10:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Alex Burka Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 18:10:41 -0400 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Meeting Notice X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7739096363050207553==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============7739096363050207553== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f40304379aa0b80f83055beda18c" --f40304379aa0b80f83055beda18c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm durka, not gleki, but I think you're talking to me. I said this: > I move that adequate notice was provided. And guskant seconded. I'm not sure how to make it any clearer, but I'll try: I hereby make a motion to confirm that sufficient notice was given for this meeting. In the future, if we let ourselves get hung up on procedural minutia, we will never finish the meeting (let alone start it). If you need a motion with some exact wording, please specify it. Thanks! - la durka On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Creative Care Services < comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote: > Gleki, > > Sorry about that. Sometimes I don't catch the autocorrect errors. I asked > someone to make a motion if or if not sufficient notice was given and you > did not specify if you were moving that it was or that it was not. Please > restate the notion so that the motion becomes actionable. > > Thanks, > . karis. > > On Oct 18, 2017 22:38, "Alex Burka" wrote: > >> Several typos make your message very hard to understand. In what way was >> my motion incorrect? >> >> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Creative Care Services < >> comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> To clarify, I asked for someone to make a motion "whether or not >>> shifting notice was given." To make the motion be needs to fifty which = even >>> if his intent is clear. >>> >>> . karis. >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2017 22:18, "Creative Care Services" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Gleki has offered to make a movement, but the wording needs to be >>>> clarified before Guskant's second can be accepted. I would appreciate = if he >>>> would provide this so we can proceed. >>>> >>>> . karis. >>>> >>>> On Oct 18, 2017 22:08, "Creative Care Services" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm sorry, Bob. Let me correct the drill call to show that Bob >>>> LeChevalier is also present. >>>> >>>> . karis. >>>> >>>> On Oct 18, 2017 20:14, "Creative Care Services" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm glad for all the attendees and "lurkers" . According to >>>>> Riley the roll so far is as follows. >>>>> >>>>> At this time 18 members have indicated their presence at the meeting: >>>>> >>>>> Pierre Abbat >>>>> Arcadia Balandin >>>>> Alex Burka >>>>> Sylvain D=C3=A9jardin >>>>> Miles Forster (proxy via gleki) >>>>> Curtis Franks >>>>> Ali Sajid Imami >>>>> Nora LeChevalier >>>>> Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas >>>>> Adam Lopresto >>>>> Riley Martinez-Lynch >>>>> Robin Lee Powell >>>>> And Rosta >>>>> Karen Stein >>>>> Paul Swift >>>>> Veijo Vilva >>>>> Mitsuko Wate >>>>> Mark Shoulson >>>>> >>>>> 7 members do not appear to be present: >>>>> >>>>> Jacob Errington >>>>> Arnt Richard Johansen >>>>> Robert LeChevalier >>>>> Timo Paulssen >>>>> Thomas Porter >>>>> Theodore Reed >>>>> Tommy Whitlock >>>>> >>>>> Next issue is whether or not notice for this meeting was sufficiently >>>>> provided. Since I provided it, would someone else make a motion in th= is >>>>> regard so we can proceed? >>>>> >>>>> As a side question, I said I didn't know if any discussion of relevan= t >>>>> topics has occurred on the various chats and haven't received any res= ponse. >>>>> Would those of you active in these please be prepared to summarize an= y >>>>> since the end of our last meeting when we get to the appropriate type= of >>>>> business (old or new). >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 16, 2017 20:58, "Mark E. Shoulson" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm lurking too, for what it's worth. >>>>>> >>>>>> ~mark >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/16/2017 08:53 PM, Thomas Porter wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >Sorry for the wait. With no further delay, 17 members have indicate= d >>>>>> their presence at the meeting: >>>>>> >8 members do not appear to be present: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am present. I did not know I had crossed the membership threshold, >>>>>> so I was just lurking. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Llg-members mailing listLlg-members@lojban.orghttp://mail.lojban.org= /mailman/listinfo/llg-members >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Llg-members mailing list >>>>>> Llg-members@lojban.org >>>>>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Llg-members mailing list >>> Llg-members@lojban.org >>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --f40304379aa0b80f83055beda18c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm durka, not gleki, but I think you're talking t= o me. I said this:

>=C2=A0I move that adequate notice was provided.

And guskant seconded.
=
I'm not sure how= to make it any clearer, but I'll try:

I = hereby make a motion to confirm that sufficient notice was given for this m= eeting.

=
In the future, if we let ourselves ge= t hung up on procedural minutia, we will never finish the meeting (let alon= e start it). If you need a motion with some exact wording, please specify i= t.

= Thanks!
- la durka


On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Creative Care Services <com= caresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:
=
Gleki,

Sorry= about that. Sometimes I don't catch the autocorrect errors. I asked so= meone to make a motion if or if not sufficient notice was given and you did= not specify if you were moving that it was or that it was not. Please rest= ate the notion so that the motion becomes actionable.

Thanks,=C2=A0
. karis.= =C2=A0

On Oct 18, 2017 22:38, "Alex = Burka" <durk= a42@gmail.com> wrote:
Several typos make your message very hard to unde= rstand. In what way was my motion incorrect?

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Creative= Care Services <comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:
To clarify, I asked for someone t= o make a motion "whether or not shifting notice was given." To ma= ke the motion be needs to fifty which even if his intent is clear.

. karis.=C2=A0

On Oct 18, 2017 22:18, "Creative Care Services= " <comca= resvcs@gmail.com> wrote:
Gleki has offered to make a movement, but t= he wording needs to be clarified before Guskant's second can be accepte= d. I would appreciate if he would provide this so we can proceed.

. karis.=C2=A0

On Oct 18, 2017 22:08, &quo= t;Creative Care Services" <comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry, B= ob. Let me correct the drill call to show that Bob LeChevalier is also pres= ent.

. karis.=C2=A0

On Oct 18, 2017 20:14, "Creative Care Services&q= uot; <comcare= svcs@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm glad for all the attendees and "lu= rkers" <grin>. According to Riley the roll so far is as follows.=

At this time 18 members have indicated their presence= at the meeting:
Pierre Abbat
Arcadia Balandin
=
Alex Burka
Sylvain D=C3=A9jardin
Miles Forster (proxy via glek= i)
Curtis Franks
Ali Sajid Imami
=
Nora LeChevalier
Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas
<= div style=3D"font-family:sans-serif" dir=3D"auto">Adam Lopresto
Riley Martinez-Lynch
Robin Lee Powell
And Rosta
Karen Stein
Paul Swift
Veijo Vilva
Mitsuko Wate
Mark Shoulson=C2=A0

7 members do not appear to be present:

Jacob Errington
Arnt Richard Johansen
Robert LeChevalier
Timo Paulssen
Thomas Porter
The= odore Reed
Tommy Wh= itlock

Next issue is whether or n= ot notice for this meeting was sufficiently provided. Since I provided it, = would someone else make a motion in this regard so we can proceed?=C2=A0=C2= =A0

As a side question, = I said I didn't know if any discussion of relevant topics has occurred = on the various chats and haven't received any response. Would those of = you active in these please be prepared to summarize any since the end of ou= r last meeting when we get to the appropriate type of business (old or new)= .=C2=A0

On Oct 16, 2017 20:58, "Mark E. Shoulson" <mark@kli.org> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
I'm lurking too, for what it's = worth.

~mark

On 10/16/2017 08:53 PM, Thomas Porter wrote:
=20 =20

>Sorry for the wait. With no further delay, 17 members have indicated their presence at the meeting:

>8 members do not appear to be present:

I am present. I did not know I had crossed the membership threshold, so I was just lurking.


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