Received: from localhost ([::1]:58772 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eGEEd-0002IX-Cj; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 17:17:23 -0800 Received: from mail-vk0-f66.google.com ([209.85.213.66]:39826) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eGEE6-0002B1-AK for llg-members@lojban.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 17:16:51 -0800 Received: by mail-vk0-f66.google.com with SMTP id t184so3734456vka.6 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 17:16:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Zpv1sagUdO74lxZDfAXpjY57LlbWqWD/o01w/sLIAOQ=; b=HlYY+paGolqdZhNJIYilUkYF5Mc1vhw6sbfeEy85Qkf4/pXEImk7DMSIhj4U1zg/Pv F3Kj6tVKIzwo0QADLlQm0C8BFxjT4Urt3txgLncljprRxjaRXDIjtnXfpdklNdAWtcQX EGb+5GTtN+9g7OwTmqERrxeH8XgL+JNAXw5CKMuaY8xpgxdVgGEKtOfBDa30+0IsulJj YE1DfiP9YTR/lEaBQa7dPG6oRw+YEwwFVSXitxkINIUIpP3S2EopES7X2gsmFcNtspf7 h+XClCfYX4pdeqwSIWlfYLB9HD+de368YUp7IMDtPm8XE1lx0C5T3HSb3eUTXMr9VTc8 Niyw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Zpv1sagUdO74lxZDfAXpjY57LlbWqWD/o01w/sLIAOQ=; b=P91Ofb9I3eI5LXVpK9plQ4E1S07aH6JBFQDZk3RYIsME4GP21x9qJm7QibF7Q2gjxq 1OV1AKvxeDBNC8m5RtW5Myd0GWNBHFLkMdhB2pfpNQfzOVRjCjCYxk2hX+Q+rjPJFOdJ NLeOsJsFligG4rmN7U4hXYZCjKAJrMPaccA+GoQbnkpTXnTVs3FMSjgV68uCvEDyYBPV namXNoD0KYeCQh90hI9xAPAal8+UqDKlEC22lOKTSCfgrlvospstAxiwhSa2ex/5I79m ZwT8/kTZnhnMtCGhR1UIxUgEPkY0+RQVT2zkiZcm9pcI8Z+0XHTV1K4xm/EOxayF6tIv sX6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX4zYyZXToTRmzpB6wf6uuyxSV8txIl4ppyWi65A02HSZdQf54Zu x73lGpo2atEZo3Kbz39ph9A7iSaMqtaf7RQn++U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZBoI5l5WmuTINrsLarXfHjfJjPDIxEm5NyZlr0P+p62G5m4PDwnRuWNNjgyfEcN5Dvuvt7dzXHFqUtAQEZmd0= X-Received: by 10.31.216.193 with SMTP id p184mr6987850vkg.189.1511054203151; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 17:16:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.68.39 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 17:16:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.176.68.39 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 17:16:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Creative Care Services Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 20:16:42 -0500 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Board Members X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6746171063366714152==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============6746171063366714152== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114ef04a03ecc4055e4bb9c1" --001a114ef04a03ecc4055e4bb9c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Curtis has proposed that the board members remain the same unless specific people state they want to be removed. Gleki has seconded the motion. Is there any discussion on this proposal? .karis. On Nov 18, 2017 01:59, "Curtis Franks" wrote: Whoever is currently on the Board should remain so unless they explicitly announce otherwise for themselves (per individual). If necessary, I make this a formal proposal or second any similar proposal which provides extra details. If necessary, I hereby vote in favor of them when the time comes. On Nov 16, 2017 22:37, "Creative Care Services" wrote: > Lojbab's latest post, which follows, makes it clear that several steps > in the meeting went by too fast for everyone to see and respond to them. > Here's a list of what has already been raised. > > * Because mukti is unable to participate regularly I put the reading of > minutes from the last meeting aside until he is able to read them or > someone else offers to summarize the meeting notes for the rest of us. > > * We then heard what reports were available (again putting mukti's on > hold). > > * A request was made by the president for anyone interested in joining th= e > voting membership or anyone interested in leaving the membership to state > such a desire. No one did over the next several days. > > I recently announced mistakenly that the next section is for old business= , > however lojbab has reminded me that election of the board is the next ord= er > of business. > > In order to accommodate the need to have our Board elected before the end > of this month, I hereby open the floor for statements of nomination (for > oneself or another) of new board members, and statements of continued > interest from those now serving on the board. Transfer from the 2017 boar= d > to the 2018 board will, as lojbab stated, take place at the conclusion of > this membership meeting. These will be accepted through 12:00 midnight GM= T > on =C5=83ovember 21, 2017. > > Since others may not have realized that all these sections of the meeting > have already been opened to discussion, I will happily back up to make > sure that all members and other participants in this meeting feel that th= ey > have been heard. If any of you would like more discussion on any of hese > topics, please announce this in an email to this list before 12:00 midnig= ht > GMT the end of November 19, 2017. I want to leave some time for any > discussion requested to occur before voting occurs on the Board for 2018. > > . karis. > > On Nov 15, 2017 19:52, "Bob LeChevalier" wrote: > > On 11/14/2017 4:40 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > >> >> >> 2017-11-14 10:39 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services > >: >> >> >> If this meeting was paralyzed we'd still be taking roll. We aren't >> going to discuss this further until it's brought up as new business, >> as I know Gleki plans to do >> >> First, an official statement that the membership tensing as it was >> with the exception of And Rosta. I leave it to Riley to list all the >> names at this point in the meeting writeup. >> >> No one has suggested any new members or asked to be removed so we >> proceed >> >> What old business do the rest of you want addressed? Please state >> these topics and explain a bit where you believe it's necessary. I >> expect this to be complete by 12:00 noon GMT on 11/18/2017. >> > > > My opinion (which can be overridden by the chair) >> > > After committee reports, the next item is a call for any new members (who > should have been enrolled on the list earlier, but I don't know if mukti > added anyone). People can nominate someone not present, and if accepted = by > the membership would be invited to join the meeting. > > > Then we elect the new Board of Directors which will take office after thi= s > meeting ends (and then the new Board will elect new officers). > > Old and then New business comes after the Board election. Old business > consists of topics discussed at prior meetings, especially if they involv= ed > motions that were passed. Anything to do with byfy, LLG role in the > language OTHER THAN appointing the BYFY chair, and management of the > website, and Pierre's committee-of-one effort to create a testing/skill > rating system are the 4 things I know would be old business. You need to > look at old minutes to see if there are other topics. Unfortunately, > without mukti, there are no minutes for last meeting to approve (which > should have been earlier in the meeting, but there is no help for that). > > New business is anything else. gleki's previous postings would still be > new business if they never made it to the status of an approved motion in= a > prior meeting. > > Lojbab > > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members --001a114ef04a03ecc4055e4bb9c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Curtis has proposed that the board members remain the sam= e unless specific people state they want to be removed. Gleki has seconded = the motion. Is there any discussion on this proposal?

=
.karis.

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Nov 18, 2017 01:59, "Curtis Franks" = <curtis.w.franks@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
Whoever is currently on the Board should remain so unless they expli= citly announce otherwise for themselves (per individual). If necessary, I m= ake this a formal proposal or second any similar proposal which provides ex= tra details.

If necessary, I h= ereby vote in favor of them when the time comes.

On No= v 16, 2017 22:37, "Creative Care Services" <comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrot= e:
=C2=A0Lojbab's latest post, which fo= llows,=C2=A0 makes it clear that several steps in the meeting went by too f= ast for everyone to see and respond to them. Here's a list of what has = already been raised.=C2=A0

* B= ecause mukti is unable to participate regularly I put the reading of minute= s from the last meeting aside until he is able to read them or someone else= offers to summarize the meeting notes for the rest of us.=C2=A0

* We then heard what reports were = available (again putting mukti's on hold).=C2=A0

* A request was made by the president for anyo= ne interested in joining the voting membership or anyone interested in leav= ing the membership to state such a desire. No one did over the next several= days.=C2=A0

I recently = announced mistakenly that the next section is for old business, however loj= bab has reminded me that election of the board is the next order of busines= s.

In order to accommoda= te the need to have our Board elected before the end of this month, I hereb= y open the floor for statements of nomination (for oneself or another) of n= ew board members, and statements of continued interest from those now servi= ng on the board. Transfer from the 2017 board to the 2018 board will, as lo= jbab stated, take place at the conclusion of this membership meeting. These= will be accepted through 12:00 midnight GMT on =C5=83ovember 21, 2017.

Since others may not have r= ealized that all these sections of the meeting have already been opened to = discussion,=C2=A0I will happily back= up to make sure that all members and other participants in this meeting fe= el that they have been heard. If any of you would like more discussion on a= ny of hese topics, please announce this in an email to this list before 12:= 00 midnight GMT the end of November 19, 2017. I want to leave some time for= any discussion requested to occur before voting occurs on the Board for 20= 18.=C2=A0

. karis.=C2=A0

On= Nov 15, 2017 19:52, "Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
On 11/14/2017 4:40 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:<= br>


2017-11-14 10:39 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services <comcaresvcs@gmail.com <mailto:= comcaresvcs@gmai= l.com>>:


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 If this meeting was paralyzed we'd still be taking roll. = We aren't
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 going to discuss this further until it's brought up as ne= w business,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 as I know Gleki plans to do

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 First, an official statement that the membership tensing as i= t was
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 with the exception of And Rosta. I leave it to Riley to list = all the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 names at this point in the meeting writeup.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 No one has suggested any new members or asked to be removed s= o we
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 proceed

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 What old business do the rest of you want addressed? Please s= tate
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 these topics and explain a bit where you believe it's nec= essary. I
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 expect this to be complete by 12:00 noon GMT on 11/18/2017. <= /div>


My opinion (which can be overridden by the chair)

After committee reports, the next item is a call for any new members (who s= hould have been enrolled on the list earlier, but I don't know if mukti= added anyone).=C2=A0 People can nominate someone not present, and if accep= ted by the membership would be invited to join the meeting.


Then we elect the new Board of Directors which will take office after this = meeting ends (and then the new Board will elect new officers).

Old and then New business comes after the Board election.=C2=A0 Old busines= s consists of topics discussed at prior meetings, especially if they involv= ed motions that were passed.=C2=A0 Anything to do with byfy, LLG role in th= e language OTHER THAN appointing the BYFY chair, and management of the webs= ite, and Pierre's committee-of-one effort to create a testing/skill rat= ing system are the 4 things I know would be old business.=C2=A0 You need to= look at old minutes to see if there are other topics.=C2=A0 Unfortunately,= without mukti, there are no minutes for last meeting to approve (which sho= uld have been earlier in the meeting, but there is no help for that).

New business is anything else.=C2=A0 gleki's previous postings would st= ill be new business if they never made it to the status of an approved moti= on in a prior meeting.

Lojbab


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