Received: from localhost ([::1]:43262 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eK5WR-0008Nw-Qb; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:47:43 -0800 Received: from mail-wm0-f67.google.com ([74.125.82.67]:45755) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eK5Vv-0008LY-SX for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:47:13 -0800 Received: by mail-wm0-f67.google.com with SMTP id 9so7604215wme.4 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:47:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FgebzjnjyEXYtOu8F/cJNg/iGxHJ2u+3rdQ6yg6Ktws=; b=aAF6n0M4wnj+IBSYTdrdj73cjEVURLI/4BSbu2RlaYo0OsEIRZtMlh/07CwTtyZTOr YSN1jivFV+svbNep2hgY1FqWAeLEKNSiSrntXxGVfRAN3D3mop6a+vfldhBz4BCcwfXA ax0P6XN+ixJ1EzczQyQdo0FPPIphkVTKDsLLXfNEqfqlzDLmjnFajk/IZAAifADmNYFI yQw+JeYf0+BD1O31Fr6QnsQv3/EAjsNf7k2K0xa+zMsJAP3JRrxz4QA4MmkvyMnKEdtm yZmfTQJso38uQrMUpvufRWf32KcAObz0QlwyiBiVC1b3Nh/nxU03iAaxFtSziWUxCU0o W9Iw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=FgebzjnjyEXYtOu8F/cJNg/iGxHJ2u+3rdQ6yg6Ktws=; b=T+3dsPcF3liK09D8C5gsMUoXFEsmvbQ1TVZswYIVEgVh7f8vrPV1aK3FSxYuwqs4BS ga1uGGiVvLX2PXHeXmiQhJ5FvBoYDxXMlDSpR28o0+Z5jeNbBWYNeY8omlJYs9761yH3 6p7wzCSGpQCqh/uKJEyhzPv5YtMaIkxrCkC420NDwA7bdjO0iO36awWe5KF25MQpo6EK r29ckjNm8jt+fwHUO9Fj5vHOLYoT0vocLzbUv+5ZQ8C8NiqVAcfrdnTz03yQ2oT34Dk3 ZaVF0MHOlURMZqJqwRAnWljYRWDujZCCYFgy/4eG6t1svwmdQEjCUQ7BeEHf8sszuJpa j02g== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX7iYDCBexTMlR0JASi3TxkXavuF9tPuTokt2fDVF5RNgE2rZqvx NCNYfB5L/hFhummIZMsmBMqrP9vHj0NBFnJtag== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbWZfaasVxtZwbcK1vNcfSjezpq33QpH9GSQP9DN+WbfY2+q/t5x3+7iYTUSJQS0mG9gQnU/KDs9o1YAxqv9RA= X-Received: by 10.80.174.201 with SMTP id f9mr8777487edd.139.1511974024799; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:47:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.173.219 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:46:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 19:46:24 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.5 X-Spam_score_int: -4 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Board Members X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8095843068109611011==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============8095843068109611011== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045c2928a86a8e055f21e2f0" --f403045c2928a86a8e055f21e2f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2017-11-19 4:16 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services : > Curtis has proposed that the board members remain the same unless specifi= c > people state they want to be removed. Gleki has seconded the motion. Is > there any discussion on this proposal? > Seems like no. Karis, can we continue, please? > .karis. > > On Nov 18, 2017 01:59, "Curtis Franks" wrote: > > Whoever is currently on the Board should remain so unless they explicitly > announce otherwise for themselves (per individual). If necessary, I make > this a formal proposal or second any similar proposal which provides extr= a > details. > > If necessary, I hereby vote in favor of them when the time comes. > > On Nov 16, 2017 22:37, "Creative Care Services" > wrote: > >> Lojbab's latest post, which follows, makes it clear that several steps >> in the meeting went by too fast for everyone to see and respond to them. >> Here's a list of what has already been raised. >> >> * Because mukti is unable to participate regularly I put the reading of >> minutes from the last meeting aside until he is able to read them or >> someone else offers to summarize the meeting notes for the rest of us. >> >> * We then heard what reports were available (again putting mukti's on >> hold). >> >> * A request was made by the president for anyone interested in joining >> the voting membership or anyone interested in leaving the membership to >> state such a desire. No one did over the next several days. >> >> I recently announced mistakenly that the next section is for old >> business, however lojbab has reminded me that election of the board is t= he >> next order of business. >> >> In order to accommodate the need to have our Board elected before the en= d >> of this month, I hereby open the floor for statements of nomination (for >> oneself or another) of new board members, and statements of continued >> interest from those now serving on the board. Transfer from the 2017 boa= rd >> to the 2018 board will, as lojbab stated, take place at the conclusion o= f >> this membership meeting. These will be accepted through 12:00 midnight G= MT >> on =C5=83ovember 21, 2017. >> >> Since others may not have realized that all these sections of the meetin= g >> have already been opened to discussion, I will happily back up to make >> sure that all members and other participants in this meeting feel that t= hey >> have been heard. If any of you would like more discussion on any of hese >> topics, please announce this in an email to this list before 12:00 midni= ght >> GMT the end of November 19, 2017. I want to leave some time for any >> discussion requested to occur before voting occurs on the Board for 2018= . >> >> . karis. >> >> On Nov 15, 2017 19:52, "Bob LeChevalier" wrote: >> >> On 11/14/2017 4:40 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> 2017-11-14 10:39 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services >> >: >>> >>> >>> If this meeting was paralyzed we'd still be taking roll. We aren't >>> going to discuss this further until it's brought up as new business= , >>> as I know Gleki plans to do >>> >>> First, an official statement that the membership tensing as it was >>> with the exception of And Rosta. I leave it to Riley to list all th= e >>> names at this point in the meeting writeup. >>> >>> No one has suggested any new members or asked to be removed so we >>> proceed >>> >>> What old business do the rest of you want addressed? Please state >>> these topics and explain a bit where you believe it's necessary. I >>> expect this to be complete by 12:00 noon GMT on 11/18/2017. >>> >> >> >> My opinion (which can be overridden by the chair) >>> >> >> After committee reports, the next item is a call for any new members (wh= o >> should have been enrolled on the list earlier, but I don't know if mukti >> added anyone). People can nominate someone not present, and if accepted= by >> the membership would be invited to join the meeting. >> >> >> Then we elect the new Board of Directors which will take office after >> this meeting ends (and then the new Board will elect new officers). >> >> Old and then New business comes after the Board election. Old business >> consists of topics discussed at prior meetings, especially if they invol= ved >> motions that were passed. Anything to do with byfy, LLG role in the >> language OTHER THAN appointing the BYFY chair, and management of the >> website, and Pierre's committee-of-one effort to create a testing/skill >> rating system are the 4 things I know would be old business. You need t= o >> look at old minutes to see if there are other topics. Unfortunately, >> without mukti, there are no minutes for last meeting to approve (which >> should have been earlier in the meeting, but there is no help for that). >> >> New business is anything else. gleki's previous postings would still be >> new business if they never made it to the status of an approved motion i= n a >> prior meeting. >> >> Lojbab >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --f403045c2928a86a8e055f21e2f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-11-19 4:16 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services <= comcaresvcs@gmai= l.com>:
C= urtis has proposed that the board members remain the same unless specific p= eople state they want to be removed. Gleki has seconded the motion. Is ther= e any discussion on this proposal?

Se= ems like no. Karis, can we continue, please?=C2=A0


.karis.

On Nov 18, 2017 01:59, "Curtis Franks" <curtis.w.franks@= gmail.com> wrote:
Whoever is currently on the Board sh= ould remain so unless they explicitly announce otherwise for themselves (pe= r individual). If necessary, I make this a formal proposal or second any si= milar proposal which provides extra details.

If necessary, I hereby vote in favor of them when the time c= omes.

=
On Nov 16, 2017 22:37, &qu= ot;Creative Care Services" <comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:
=C2=A0Lojbab's latest post, which fo= llows,=C2=A0 makes it clear that several steps in the meeting went by too f= ast for everyone to see and respond to them. Here's a list of what has = already been raised.=C2=A0

* B= ecause mukti is unable to participate regularly I put the reading of minute= s from the last meeting aside until he is able to read them or someone else= offers to summarize the meeting notes for the rest of us.=C2=A0

* We then heard what reports were = available (again putting mukti's on hold).=C2=A0

* A request was made by the president for anyo= ne interested in joining the voting membership or anyone interested in leav= ing the membership to state such a desire. No one did over the next several= days.=C2=A0

I recently = announced mistakenly that the next section is for old business, however loj= bab has reminded me that election of the board is the next order of busines= s.

In order to accommoda= te the need to have our Board elected before the end of this month, I hereb= y open the floor for statements of nomination (for oneself or another) of n= ew board members, and statements of continued interest from those now servi= ng on the board. Transfer from the 2017 board to the 2018 board will, as lo= jbab stated, take place at the conclusion of this membership meeting. These= will be accepted through 12:00 midnight GMT on =C5=83ovember 21, 2017.

Since others may not have r= ealized that all these sections of the meeting have already been opened to = discussion,=C2=A0I will happily back= up to make sure that all members and other participants in this meeting fe= el that they have been heard. If any of you would like more discussion on a= ny of hese topics, please announce this in an email to this list before 12:= 00 midnight GMT the end of November 19, 2017. I want to leave some time for= any discussion requested to occur before voting occurs on the Board for 20= 18.=C2=A0

. karis.=C2=A0

On= Nov 15, 2017 19:52, "Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
On 11/14/2017 4:40 AM, = Gleki Arxokuna wrote:


2017-11-14 10:39 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services <comcaresvcs@gmail.com <mailto:= comcaresvcs@gmai= l.com>>:


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 If this meeting was paralyzed we'd still be taking roll. = We aren't
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 going to discuss this further until it's brought up as ne= w business,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 as I know Gleki plans to do

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 First, an official statement that the membership tensing as i= t was
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 with the exception of And Rosta. I leave it to Riley to list = all the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 names at this point in the meeting writeup.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 No one has suggested any new members or asked to be removed s= o we
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 proceed

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 What old business do the rest of you want addressed? Please s= tate
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 these topics and explain a bit where you believe it's nec= essary. I
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 expect this to be complete by 12:00 noon GMT on 11/18/2017. <= /div>


My opinion (which can be overr= idden by the chair)

After committee reports, the next item is a call for any new members (who s= hould have been enrolled on the list earlier, but I don't know if mukti= added anyone).=C2=A0 People can nominate someone not present, and if accep= ted by the membership would be invited to join the meeting.


Then we elect the new Board of Directors which will take office after this = meeting ends (and then the new Board will elect new officers).

Old and then New business comes after the Board election.=C2=A0 Old busines= s consists of topics discussed at prior meetings, especially if they involv= ed motions that were passed.=C2=A0 Anything to do with byfy, LLG role in th= e language OTHER THAN appointing the BYFY chair, and management of the webs= ite, and Pierre's committee-of-one effort to create a testing/skill rat= ing system are the 4 things I know would be old business.=C2=A0 You need to= look at old minutes to see if there are other topics.=C2=A0 Unfortunately,= without mukti, there are no minutes for last meeting to approve (which sho= uld have been earlier in the meeting, but there is no help for that).

New business is anything else.=C2=A0 gleki's previous postings would st= ill be new business if they never made it to the status of an approved moti= on in a prior meeting.

Lojbab


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