Received: from localhost ([::1]:34288 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eXLZi-0004rP-LA; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 22:33:54 -0800 Received: from mail-vk0-f51.google.com ([209.85.213.51]:38951) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eXLZC-0004qS-EF for llg-members@lojban.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 22:33:23 -0800 Received: by mail-vk0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x64so2509316vkd.6 for ; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 22:33:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=d77eIMza2zgDyMWCEJLvk8MWxYZJe128ZSF6HQFZsiE=; b=YLZxSeou9hzQoJhQ3OTZ42dOtkLHToEdw+RLMYPP7lTs5yjyhjUEnHRPrMJtd6XVgs D8G3LSLPHm5KR5W1oH1u/TgB1p+7WtFloezjp3GEfX0nUaQsVyx4faGInc11AyO8GvNM LjRZo2+TmrfFNSAJmQjLF0wirlbZYSVw0kt/wlCnxMFOJeOdwPLa9jyGYRM2QV65qpUy ma3JnjmcDD+F4nm7RZlvtGxw5WO/AzqvFyl3kbccqDkc+BZxVJA8nbHuSu59yNCwCBrw cflIDxEHmu8nl7Q//BDP9R5sQjeWPLjwguG+dZpctcARIDuvivbob4IxypImd6XcMrtk D9/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=d77eIMza2zgDyMWCEJLvk8MWxYZJe128ZSF6HQFZsiE=; b=C8zY8SzHZLyuK91TeOOv6twXnYk8OBUkbkXM9CzzSmNvbfSMaaA9Sey/2EdSb5hWy/ wjy8lmAHWQXWMdQw/W3udk7HB0Kt7CM1zup5drvsGAgkFxnM/3wp5wcr+mwBjL/UTpjp B5PyMQUeJD5dDfcBqseBwEpmW/khdtkUqYjFN3GoLgUjQDshJrtUbIgXavhS10+YPEMF Su0/sXSbJUrt1FKfWHzwikGUS4aA98T8s/HPepnVHnzrf3ocq9koCNhnq4uNoxEs6woI /aOE4F+LKbfQjTyhrHYGEwTVuGr+uu7RiHYYgMWhTEA1EciUINVPSTHg1t+uCYIaJQjk aFww== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytcZSJTM5DQ9Pw7NiPIdEtzspPCQms7fVxZdpvgzv8kAmggtz2iS vxipD5DwAMdExuyLwblyWLgBVqjLzuZr/QLQliU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBotYg0/5R5Uxga671/zgpMWILdoqrWJ2UbfU3eIzuMVTyXiL3Bjs6K0sqO9L09rdwjLd4I+GPtqCZWX8N1KmbBM= X-Received: by 10.31.184.68 with SMTP id i65mr1877115vkf.6.1515133995518; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 22:33:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.27.18 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Jan 2018 22:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.176.27.18 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Jan 2018 22:33:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Creative Care Services Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 01:33:14 -0500 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] old business: dictionary, chrestomathy X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6974203347093270918==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============6974203347093270918== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1142f8a89710800562019fa8" --001a1142f8a89710800562019fa8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Dec 30, 2017 07:14, "Gleki Arxokuna" wrote: Back to constructive news. *Dictionary.* Currently la ilmen, la gleki (and maybe la jelca) are slowly working on proofreading tatoeba.org database of sentences. They have checked ~800 out of 11 000 Lojban sentences by far. I think it's necessary to finish all of them since those are sentences that various people tried to translate to Lojban in past, that is sentences people were interested in. Interesting that each contributor to this project can proofread every sentence even if it's already proofread by another contributor AND WITHOUT overwriting someone else's work. Concurrently there is some work on several dictionaries with examples. E.g. I myself consulted Lojbab a few times to fetch historical=original vision of gismu place structures *Chrestomathy.* Concurrently people translate texts from English here and there thus de facto resurrecting the once official LLG project for a chrestomathy and populating corpora of parallel texts. I think we already have enough texts to publish a chrestomathy. Dialectal differences are usually not too huge to quickly adapt a given text to "official Lojban" whatever is chosen to be called by that name. *Other.* Apart from updating CLL, Dictionary and Chrestomathy are there any major projects that want resurrection? Tutorials for beginners are probably too hard to discuss, no? I don't believe such discussions are too difficult, but until someone (or ones) choose to focus on this a discussion may be premature. .karis. --001a1142f8a89710800562019fa8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Dec 30, 2017 07:14, "Gleki Arxokuna" <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote= :
Back to= constructive news.

Dictionary.
Current= ly la ilmen, la gleki (and maybe la jelca) are slowly working on proofreadi= ng tatoeba.org=C2=A0da= tabase of sentences. They have checked ~800 out of 11 000 Lojban sentences = by far. I think it's necessary to finish all of them since those are se= ntences that various people tried to translate to Lojban in past, that is s= entences people were interested in.

Interestin= g that each contributor to this project can proofread every sentence even i= f it's already proofread by another contributor AND WITHOUT overwriting= someone else's work.

Concurrently there is so= me work on several dictionaries with examples. E.g. I myself consulted Lojb= ab a few times to fetch historical=3Doriginal vision of gismu place structu= res

Chrestomathy.
Concurrently pe= ople translate texts from English here and there thus de facto resurrecting= the once official LLG project for a chrestomathy and populating corpora of= parallel texts.

I think we already have enough te= xts to publish a chrestomathy. Dialectal differences are usually not too hu= ge to quickly adapt a given text to "official Lojban" whatever is= chosen to be called by that name.

Other.
Apart from updating CLL, Dictionary and Chrestomathy are there any= major projects that want resurrection? Tutorials for beginners are probabl= y too hard to discuss, no?

I don't believe such discussion= s are too difficult, but until someone (or ones) choose to focus on this a = discussion may be premature.=C2=A0

.karis.
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