Received: from localhost ([::1]:52940 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eZrpS-0003L9-Jj; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:24:34 -0800 Received: from mail-wr0-f171.google.com ([209.85.128.171]:39539) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eZrow-0003JS-E1 for llg-members@lojban.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:24:03 -0800 Received: by mail-wr0-f171.google.com with SMTP id z48so4260344wrz.6 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:24:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccil-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wlTTSabSemybtPGEJHyLqSoloKRWveHaRpoXd69HBGk=; b=2NqdLs9vIYpT4a6c9DM7RnvT1TwEheh2Xfh5kCtJ+W993pORHMRLzZw2T63JRx2eJg yiKoRSq97VYfYOv70peWTpf8YCHbablg2tb9ych9fVeBeYyzD4VMSMlBbQAeF1xQoK4D /uhIdDkorrBtCTN/UhaLBpgzBuWkSIxx//l/mY5GMWYy+8C34HrEGJohX8jbkvZRvuf5 DMBnMRQ7jLGjjes29ktH/P6Fss3v/DhM36PbvVfeWy9yc0t77rKcUyQTxs1FWdIs6NpJ 5+xAQiXjAfu3Rh1FzHLD0RjxJg4/0q+XAEEi3wmSAU3+E9X/+pQjo9VAZXyP3IO2qDOF sEtA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wlTTSabSemybtPGEJHyLqSoloKRWveHaRpoXd69HBGk=; b=rX/pcShM6U+vyoYSzmJ3CSuWXWYoLx7omRIduAYJet9GL/dzuVvDvz/q7mf4X5ClKo DyyPXfN/Q+thZsC0NCIe7EUjHoIQZM6K6D5lSBjGJb9jZUcqxv2/pUWkLosUDNsjmuCW LMjEyGf2UiUGK0b8H2/c/GdVxNgRxl8jpoPa4QLz+kwj9jY49akYJHlXPJSZCULpAz4w qU/0te4AZwHI6h1pXZEJkBCStu1fP8xRL+EJSQY4now/+qSBpQ2qq75obybQkJAZTI56 +bgcc69VbPo2s19BVSVbekeh11Y9G002PLOnjEbZm1kM61SEzIXnS0Ltdr42wqB7ZTRg dAGQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytdgZsCLJJquiDei94Q1JvsbpIJG4p3i726uRpLp2Nzr75RfE7+o nYliOQa4/TIwiQMNFKj8FDmEQXV6XG9SCzsULr6NwlYY X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBota4YgkHGpO+4RfPoIqPQ6zVcR8InROfnNp2D/HVv/ksdZkrl7Sa9/R4xLsoZENOgi3bjDSG53nRos8Bpm0C94= X-Received: by 10.223.139.67 with SMTP id v3mr1678624wra.162.1515734635203; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:23:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.4.75 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:23:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: John Cowan Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:23:34 -0500 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) X-Spam_score: -4.7 X-Spam_score_int: -46 X-Spam_bar: ---- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Motions regarding LLG goals X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2342946405717078935==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============2342946405717078935== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045e9d5081623e05628d7851" --f403045e9d5081623e05628d7851 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 4:21 AM, Creative Care Services < comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote: Please tarot discussion on these morons to this thread [...] > zo'o > Motion 1. The LLG shall adopt, as a principal goal of the LLG (coequal > with any other principal goals), the intention of exploration and promotion > of logical language(s) in general, subject to the following definitional > framework and description: Presupposing that everything effable (i.e. > linguistically expressible) can be represented as a predicate-argument > structure (PAS), a logical language (in the technical sense, i.e. loglang) > is one that (syntactically-)unambiguously bidirectionally encodes an > unlimited number of PASs. (Also known by some as the 'monoparsing' > property. The relevant bidirectionality is conversion both from PAS to > phonological form and from phonological form to PAS.) > > > Seconded. > > > Motion 2. A principal goal of the LLG (coequal with any other > principal goals) is promotion of Lojban (regardless of its status as a > logical language) as defined by documents endorsed by the LLG. > > > I likewise (same wording) so move, with terms as described in my > immediately previous motion in this message. > > > Seconded. > > > Motion 3. A principal goal of the LLG (coequal with any other > principal goals) is creation of a Lojban derivative that is a logical > language. > > > Seconded. > As these motions do not contradict the bylaws but merely supplement them, they are valid main motions that will pass with a majority of the legal votes cast. They will not, however, become part of the bylaws, but simply standing LLG policy; therefore, they can be amended or removed by ordinary main motions at a future meeting, if that should seem desirable. -- John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org If I have seen farther than others, it is because I was standing on the shoulders of giants. --Isaac Newton --f403045e9d5081623e05628d7851 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 4:21 AM, Creative Care Services <comcaresvc= s@gmail.com> wrote:

Please = tarot discussion on these morons to this thread [...]
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zo'o
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Motion 1. The LLG shall adopt, as a principal goal of the= LLG (coequal with any other principal goals), the intention of exploration= and promotion of logical language(s) in general, subject to the following = definitional framework and description: Presupposing that everything effabl= e (i.e. linguistically expressible) can be represented as a predicate-argum= ent structure (PAS), a logical language (in the technical sense, i.e. logla= ng) is one that (syntactically-)unambiguously bidirectionally encodes an un= limited number of PASs. (Also known by some as the 'monoparsing' pr= operty. The relevant bidirectionality is conversion both from PAS to phonol= ogical form and from phonological form to PAS.)

S= econded.


=C2=A0 =C2=A0= Motion 2. A principal goal of the LLG (coequal with any other principal go= als) is promotion of Lojban (regardless of its status as a logical language= ) as defined by documents endorsed by the LLG.


I likewise (same = wording) so move, with terms as described in my immediately previous motion= in this message.

Seconded.

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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Motion 3. A principal goal of= the LLG (coequal with any other principal goals) is creation of a Lojban d= erivative that is a logical language.=C2=A0

Secon= ded.

As these motions= do not contradict the bylaws but merely supplement them, they are valid ma= in motions that will pass with a majority of the legal votes cast.=C2=A0 Th= ey will not, however, become part of the bylaws, but simply standing LLG po= licy; therefore, they can be amended or removed by ordinary main motions at= a future meeting, if that should seem desirable.

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