Received: from localhost ([::1]:47686 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eapAe-0001oh-9d; Sun, 14 Jan 2018 12:46:24 -0800 Received: from mail-vk0-f42.google.com ([209.85.213.42]:36599) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eapA7-0001nW-So for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2018 12:45:53 -0800 Received: by mail-vk0-f42.google.com with SMTP id m197so101369vka.3 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2018 12:45:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Nt4yNTRtpp1p+cUY6BCf3H0D+3JAKbKKOY5YrDvcp1M=; b=aQU6Or+xbTbxudUonxeBpQ2bvVscHHuxxMOAM08T1gr0Xk+cBoIis7wtMEQp5c8xdJ 1JWdnM83qiPSMISIqBCYav2TB26hUE6W6VGmM5GXgKMPFYkYVLyxtcbyPuCMbXKqyMZv GipsYsejRQSTssZW9UG6D68RztiLKGZJYzjIktqpb8MTGBAipGnNLzMoMFxxjVILnFlb lxrJegu+EtElnX3Q8EJ5IBMzrEKgDduEYTQ4xw73fPstepKCGAzV4gjO86EQnRt0cmL8 h09zVipw2dbElhXnAPb0Fd5n4XeqG6UbhE9+2IwmK4L2T8VDC+wqU1kEUWyTVcv0PhCT XUbg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Nt4yNTRtpp1p+cUY6BCf3H0D+3JAKbKKOY5YrDvcp1M=; b=BVsKSYRbqb6ltHPi3FO/PqxlgD1tE56UoaLJzSPbfDOG4Ne6+jb6JBfgw42NwYKz27 eQhh9a+DPS6e5tH7SLQmKB9rO3J9v4ZMTAVimYJRjXmhReW2UvDejqcvNuUWETPHoNTD Ia7F0KcoTF/dFq9X9nvm4MlFEC8UOc7XlLGGbtkbek2/jOYWp7F/7VooHv3jwoK/a8lH OSaQdl2NW8TDF6RAQ6pYifOGdLbwwn1X208WsfEGnu9Nhk6Mu5rQKp8AokRy4bEFsof0 I11qjmiAWnNGK3zd4hljJNmPf0ZYKXQyc2HmqvW8IwdoQWZS0k8LPPilwlB98egWJk2c Rynw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxyteD5f4i682moh5epdxbqrS9mtB5srTkbr5lVPGLASmTxXKngMMs jaLBvTYElJylRD8wBK3bZa/i13jIM4Czr0oHBUY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBosUt9xlJbcp2xy0PBN8WPV/q/uWe2WKQQNZ1b7f89Nq2deof4lsq9efDZ0OUamQD64BRpfv2bKa2MvIpLoJVjo= X-Received: by 10.31.50.69 with SMTP id y66mr2672842vky.1.1515962745159; Sun, 14 Jan 2018 12:45:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.79.21 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Jan 2018 12:45:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4734149.Ac4Tda036i@caracal> From: Alex Burka Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 15:45:24 -0500 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Motion proposal - Unofficialness Disclaimer X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1622014659005519401==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============1622014659005519401== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1143148aeb06d20562c294b8" --001a1143148aeb06d20562c294b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" .i'e On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Curtis Franks wrote: > Aye. > > On Jan 13, 2018 17:11, "Creative Care Services" > wrote: > > I now open this topic to a vote on the following proposal: > > All non-official pages or content on *.lojban.org must contain a > disclaimer stating, at least, that the website is owned and managed by > voluntary > > people, and that the marked contents are not necessarily harmonized with > the official design of Lojban and may not reflect, let alone perfectly > comply with, official specifications of the same. > > Voting will be closed no sooner than noon on January 16, 2018 GMT. > > On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:20 AM, Curtis Franks > wrote: > >> >> On Jan 5, 2018 03:20, "Creative Care Services" >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you, Pierre. >>> >>> We now have a motion on the floor that has been made and seconded. I ask >>> that all discussion of this motion, and only such discussion take place in >>> this thread. As a point, since we have people in attendance who are not >>> officially members I am making it clear that anyone can make comments, post >>> ideas, respond to ideas and proposals, and ask questions. We appreciate >>> your interest. >>> >>> Discussion will be open until 12:00 noon GMT on January 9, 2018, or >>> until it appears to me that the discussion is no longer active before then. >>> Other discussions will continue in other threads. Because my intent is to >>> complete this meeting fairly soon without having to push topics to the next >>> meeting just because of time I would like to carry out similar processes in >>> parallel I ask for a ruling on the appropriatness of such action. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> .karis. >>> >>> On Jan 5, 2018 02:11, "Pierre Abbat" wrote: >>> >>> On Friday, January 5, 2018 1:46:41 AM EST Creative Care Services wrote: >>> > Ok, with multiple seconds it is necessary to clarify which motion we >>> will >>> > be voting on and whether at least one second is specifically for that >>> > motion. >>> > >>> > I therefore am restating what the first motion was : >>> > >>> > Curtis moved that, " I move that: All non-official pages or content on >>> *. >>> > lojban.org must contain a disclaimer stating, at least, that the >>> website is >>> > owned and managed by voluntary people, and that the marked contents >>> are not >>> > necessarily harmonized with the official design of Lojban and may not >>> > reflect, let alone perfectly comply with, official specifications of >>> the >>> > same." >>> > >>> > Is there a second for this only? >>> >>> I second this. >>> >>> Pierre >>> >>> -- >>> loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Llg-members mailing list >>> Llg-members@lojban.org >>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Llg-members mailing list >>> Llg-members@lojban.org >>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --001a1143148aeb06d20562c294b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
.i'e

On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Curtis Franks <cur= tis.w.franks@gmail.com> wrote:
Aye.

On Jan 13, 2018 17:1= 1, "Creative Care Services" <comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:
= I now open this topic to a vote on the following proposal:

All non-official pages= or content on *.lojba= n.org=C2=A0must= contain a disclaimer stating, at least, that the website is owned and mana= ged by voluntary

people, and that the marked contents are not= necessarily harmonized with the official design of Lojban and may not refl= ect, let alone perfectly comply with, official specifications of the same.<= /span>

Voting will be closed no sooner than noon on January 16, 2= 018 GMT.
=

On Mon, Jan 8, 20= 18 at 1:20 AM, Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 5, 2018 03:20, "Creative Care Serv= ices" <c= omcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you, Pierre.

<= /div>
We now have a motion on the floor that has been made= and seconded. I ask that all discussion of this motion, and only such disc= ussion take place in this thread. As a point, since we have people in atten= dance who are not officially members I am making it clear that anyone can m= ake comments, post ideas, respond to ideas and proposals, and ask questions= . We appreciate your interest.=C2=A0

Discussion will be open until 12:00 noon GMT on January 9, 201= 8, or until it appears to me that the discussion is no longer active before= then. Other discussions will continue in other threads. Because my intent = is to complete this meeting fairly soon without having to push topics to th= e next meeting just because of time I would like to carry out similar proce= sses in parallel I ask for a ruling on the appropriatness of such action.= =C2=A0

Thank you.=C2=A0<= /div>

.karis.=C2=A0

On Jan 5, 2018 02:11, "P= ierre Abbat" <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Friday, January 5,= 2018 1:46:41 AM EST Creative Care Services wrote:
> Ok, with multiple seconds it is necessary to clarify which motion we w= ill
> be voting on and whether at least one second is specifically for that<= br> > motion.
>
> I therefore am restating what the first motion was :
>
> Curtis moved that, " I move that: All non-official pages or conte= nt on *.
> lojban.org must contain a disclaimer stating, at least, that the web= site is
> owned and managed by voluntary peo= ple, and that the marked contents are not
> necessarily harmonized with the official design of Lojban and may not<= br> > reflect, let alone perfectly comply with, official specifications of t= he
> same."
>
> Is there a second for this only?

I second this.

Pierre

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