Received: from [::1] (port=41450 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ebTcl-0003yo-P6; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:58:07 -0800 Received: from mail-ua0-f169.google.com ([209.85.217.169]:43059) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ebTcF-0003xK-6R for llg-members@lojban.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:57:36 -0800 Received: by mail-ua0-f169.google.com with SMTP id i5so1959573uai.10 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:57:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=oa6KutFrURzUnGyUx0Cvn6QvKRFtoiSGhlof+c61gBw=; b=n5yOrZ9soNt7yf7uMNyrSeb3mi6ON+hBkcV2Iu9BCaD0ZLVv1Dir7qAiP3WACbTDwA YXCy9Z3prDICAVy42SnRmj7eWHcpsG30sNZVRbmySBFVTnnKrIX5RfQhz6SrIRCV/KMd ehu99LnJR5Uc/0AdLPhnF65WsdVc6jroMpBNNwsWmYvIgiNjfq8WtsCa7WeNLIFjLt/X VWbTn96ix2wN8HETOpwlVoCjY7Ju9or7Qff9xUSOnPNuiI8iPVtVxU3frp3KPLKckJlN F/Grf/2d5rXdiMStZpPVBSQCGQttblWeySfbpLNdvUk6PVUN1n/a8ogIV9BBpJ9YlpSW o3gA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=oa6KutFrURzUnGyUx0Cvn6QvKRFtoiSGhlof+c61gBw=; b=XrG2xEHpB6Jh2Z2nfTMKocuZ94BOgmRwtLC/q1oPVodOMDGggQHxeErzq88cc8wnkj ju4Vkqc4hJsMfSON061G3o+H6k/uelVpkR2dObzD9YQG8r6ZKkE9mTcxM2tTL6RrrkD5 jRtTy9fK8Y0KL7dg7tj4FrtbGUUZkKqi9a/B+vkef8++0geSqXo3RKYW1d35a0akAKHo v8tFfkbkARYA6ree1ziRZyXQtgT4Pt/BulxwJ0aWlkvHXcl+y2XRApDP7TFvQT3FDv67 1qBksT3Yyp/rOWbO5FCwPqbEN9ppo2P2cwpVW43vSU3KpXCeD9Uiv2BcH1W8ycsCrscC wy4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxyteBjqgKTefoT6qwl+jyYEZVySm4Bba4SID17QiyRCGEQ3Ovj1DA Nu6QE87VMJES7oLk1YJTrFGz27ACZjraGYEzQso= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBos7226uLbe9x1yjs+MthfDXB+2saBk8SceHhc5oP0IjTAoGEi7iaDYro4XruN50eCvbaoYDNDrAHPDkFtCR22w= X-Received: by 10.159.48.89 with SMTP id i25mr16831840uab.166.1516118247980; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:57:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.7.70 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:57:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.176.7.70 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:57:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Creative Care Services Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 10:57:27 -0500 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Vote : Proposal 6 for a Body to Investigate Officialness of Other Sites, Etc. X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1451295133830627488==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============1451295133830627488== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045e3ae89bc8b80562e6c96b" --f403045e3ae89bc8b80562e6c96b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hereby open voting on this proposal, as stated below. I'm sorry it is preceded by so many indents. Voting will close after that of Motions 4 and 5 to allow voting sequentially, therefore it will be open at least through midnight of 1/20/18 GMT. .karis. *Motion 6: "*There shall be =E2=80=8Bauthorized, =E2=80=8Bestablished=E2=80= =8B, constituted,=E2=80=8B and organized a body=E2=80=8B - under and by the authority of the LLG -=E2=80= =8B which will=E2=80=8B oversee,=E2=80=8B regulate=E2=80=8B, and (insofar as possible) enforce=E2= =80=8B the official implementation and application of LLG policy consistent with and pursuant to the content of the aforementioned motion proposals *(id est: Motion 4 or Motion 5)*, provided the passage of at least one thereof,=E2=80= =8B or any similar policy of the LLG=E2=80=8B and which shall search for either po= tential violations of the same or appropriate content which should be so disclaimed (regardless of any implemented policy or other mandate, and not pertaining to only websites or entities or content subject to the aforementioned policies of the LLG); when it finds such content but does not have the authority to pursue such disclaimer with respect to said content, it shall notify the LLG of the situation and its recommendations pertaining to such=E2=80=8B; =E2=80=8Bthis motion shall be inactive, vacuous, and=E2=80= =8B totally=E2=80=8B ignored if the aforementioned motion proposals *(Motion 4, Motion 5)* both do not pass.=E2=80=8B =E2=80=8BAll of this body's authority shall be inferior to a= nd subsumed by that of the LLG and shall be bounded by such policy of the LLG and it shall not notify or attempt to regulate any entity or content which is not subject to or the subject of such LLG policy, although it may search for and review such content.=E2=80=8B It will regulate the officially=E2=80=8B-= =E2=80=8Bdesired design, implementation, usage=E2=80=8B, and enforcement =E2=80=8Bof any such notice= , protocol, or disclaimer=E2=80=8B in the stead of the LLG directly=E2=80=8B. The body sha= ll consist of an odd number of members, numbering at least five. The body shall publish all of its =E2=80=8Bdebate, =E2=80=8Bdecision=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80= =8Bs=E2=80=8B, =E2=80=8Band work to the LLG and will notify the pertinent websites and entities and other subjects, according to its own discretion or explicit and direct command by the LLG, as to its standards and policies once such are concretely established=E2=80=8B. Whilst the body= is constituted, the LLG=E2=80=8B shall retain total right of oversight and con= trol over, but not necessarily responsibility for, the body and any of its ouput=E2=80=8B or decisions or actions or methods or works, as well as any = matter belonging to its domain of purpose=E2=80=8B or its purview; the body shall = govern and organize itself and design and enforce its own internal rules, its external standards, etc. =E2=80=8Binsofar as such does not conflict with th= e decisions of the LLG=E2=80=8B, including the contents of this motion=E2=80= =8B. The body shall be composed on the earliest of=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B the first 1 January = or first 1 June after its first membership is chosen, after which point it shall exist for =E2=80=8Bfully =E2=80=8Bfour =E2=80=8Bcalendrical =E2=80=8Byears and six = =E2=80=8Bcalendrical =E2=80=8Bmonths and then =E2=80=8Bshall =E2=80=8Bbe dissolved=E2=80=8B, disconstituted,=E2=80=8B and= discontinued in its entirety, unless its lifetime is extended=E2=80=8B and such expiration is delayed in = part or whole by explicit=E2=80=8B official action of the LLG; upon it=E2=80=8Bs ex= piration=E2=80=8B (described previously)=E2=80=8B, all of its =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2= =80=8Bpolicy, standards, work, decisions, and other output shall devolve to=E2=80=8B and become the direct responsibi= lity of=E2=80=8B the LLG and shall persist and remain active and valid =E2=80=8Bas =E2=80=8B= policy, standards, work, decisions, and other output=E2=80=8B (as appropriate) of a= nd in the responsibility of the LLG=E2=80=8B until the LLG=E2=80=8B explicitly de= cides otherwise=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B or upon the establishment and constitu= tion of another body or organization under the authority of the LLG which has or shall have purview which nonemptily intersects that of the body herein described (in which case, all aforementioned pertinent =E2=80=8Bpolicy, standards, work, decisi= ons, and other output=E2=80=8B =E2=80=8Bshall be inherited by and devolved to it unl= ess otherwise specified by the LLG); the =E2=80=8Bfirst =E2=80=8Bmembership of the body = =E2=80=8Bherein constituted =E2=80=8Bshall be =E2=80=8Bselected in a manner which the LLG d= ecides =E2=80=8Bto be appropriate, which shall be determined later=E2=80=8B by the LLG; thereafte= r, all other selection and regulation of its membership shall be under the primary authority and review of the body itself, although any regular selection of new membership shall not occur prior to the elapse of fully two calendrical years and six calendrical months after the original establishment of the body=E2=80=8B and selection of its first membership; all membership applica= tions and notice for such application shall be public; eligibility requirements for membership to the body shall be subject to review and change by the LLG and must be explicitly established, with explicit permission of the LLG, prior to the selection of any new membership of the body.=E2=80=8B The name= of the body herein constituted shall be determined by the LLG during or prior to, and as part of, the selection of its first membership.*=E2=80=8B"* On Jan 5, 2018 09:50, "Creative Care Services" wrote: In addition to the two other proposals regarding unofficial content, included below because this one refers to them, Curtis pointed out that he had made three rather than two on this topic. The one we are considering here is listed below as number six. This motion is now waiting to see if anyone chooses to second it. .karis. > *Concerning Unofficial Social Media Presences* > > *Motion 4: "*The LLG shall adopt an official policy that the LLG or some > body constituted by it for such purpose shall search for and monitor soci= al > media or blog platforms, accounts, pages, profiles, groups, communities, > bots, etc. (hereafter called "entities") which in any way whatsoever rela= te > to, promote, or use Lojban or other LLG-adopted logical languages and whi= ch > are not clearly human, personal, non-promoting, or unofficial - and that > such a body shall request such entities to prominently display a disclaim= er > stating that they are unofficial and not endorsed by the LLG.*"* > * * I noted the following caveat with the original discussion which becam= e > a motion: "(I do not think that we can enforce such requests, just make > them. But having an official policy about addressing them may be good and > gives us some moral 'standing')"* > * * Moved by me, seconded by gleki.* > > *___* > > *Unofficialness Disclaimer* > > *Motion 5: "*All non-official pages or content on *.lojban.org must > contain a disclaimer stating, at least, that the website is owned and > managed by voluntary people, and that the marked contents are not > necessarily harmonized with the official design of Lojban and may not > reflect, let alone perfectly comply with, official specifications of the > same.*"* > ** Moved by me, seconded by at least guskant and gleki.* > > **** Here it is! **** *Motion 6: "*There shall be =E2=80=8Bauthorized, =E2=80=8Bestablished=E2=80= =8B, constituted,=E2=80=8B and > organized a body=E2=80=8B - under and by the authority of the LLG -=E2=80= =8B which will=E2=80=8B > oversee,=E2=80=8B regulate=E2=80=8B, and (insofar as possible) enforce=E2= =80=8B the official > implementation and application of LLG policy consistent with and > pursuant to the content of the aforementioned motion proposals *(id est: > Motion 4 or Motion 5)*, provided the passage of at least one thereof,=E2= =80=8B or > any similar policy of the LLG=E2=80=8B and which shall search for either = potential > violations of the same or appropriate content which should be so disclaim= ed > (regardless of any implemented policy or other mandate, and not pertainin= g > to only websites or entities or content subject to the aforementioned > policies of the LLG); when it finds such content but does not have the > authority to pursue such disclaimer with respect to said content, it shal= l > notify the LLG of the situation and its recommendations pertaining to > such=E2=80=8B; =E2=80=8Bthis motion shall be inactive, vacuous, and=E2=80= =8B totally=E2=80=8B ignored if > the aforementioned motion proposals *(Motion 4, Motion 5)* both do not > pass.=E2=80=8B =E2=80=8BAll of this body's authority shall be inferior to= and subsumed by > that of the LLG and shall be bounded by such policy of the LLG and it sha= ll > not notify or attempt to regulate any entity or content which is not > subject to or the subject of such LLG policy, although it may search for > and review such content.=E2=80=8B It will regulate the officially=E2=80= =8B-=E2=80=8Bdesired design, > implementation, usage=E2=80=8B, and enforcement =E2=80=8Bof any such noti= ce, protocol, or > disclaimer=E2=80=8B in the stead of the LLG directly=E2=80=8B. The body s= hall consist of an > odd number of members, numbering at least five. The body shall publish al= l > of its =E2=80=8Bdebate, =E2=80=8Bdecision=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2= =80=8Bs=E2=80=8B, =E2=80=8Band work to the LLG and will notify the > pertinent websites and entities and other subjects, according to its own > discretion or explicit and direct command by the LLG, as to its standards > and policies once such are concretely established=E2=80=8B. Whilst the bo= dy is > constituted, the LLG=E2=80=8B shall retain total right of oversight and c= ontrol > over, but not necessarily responsibility for, the body and any of its > ouput=E2=80=8B or decisions or actions or methods or works, as well as an= y matter > belonging to its domain of purpose=E2=80=8B or its purview; the body shal= l govern > and organize itself and design and enforce its own internal rules, its > external standards, etc. =E2=80=8Binsofar as such does not conflict with = the > decisions of the LLG=E2=80=8B, including the contents of this motion=E2= =80=8B. The body > shall be composed on the earliest of=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B the first 1 Januar= y or first 1 June > after its first membership is chosen, after which point it shall exist fo= r > =E2=80=8Bfully =E2=80=8Bfour =E2=80=8Bcalendrical =E2=80=8Byears and six = =E2=80=8Bcalendrical =E2=80=8Bmonths and then > =E2=80=8Bshall =E2=80=8Bbe dissolved=E2=80=8B, disconstituted,=E2=80=8B a= nd discontinued in its entirety, > unless its lifetime is extended=E2=80=8B and such expiration is delayed i= n part or > whole by explicit=E2=80=8B official action of the LLG; upon it=E2=80=8Bs = expiration=E2=80=8B > (described previously)=E2=80=8B, all of its =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B= =E2=80=8Bpolicy, standards, work, decisions, > and other output shall devolve to=E2=80=8B and become the direct responsi= bility of=E2=80=8B > the LLG and shall persist and remain active and valid =E2=80=8Bas =E2=80= =8Bpolicy, > standards, work, decisions, and other output=E2=80=8B (as appropriate) of= and in > the responsibility of the LLG=E2=80=8B until the LLG=E2=80=8B explicitly = decides > otherwise=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B or upon the establishment and consti= tution of another body or > organization under the authority of the LLG which has or shall have purvi= ew > which nonemptily intersects that of the body herein described (in which > case, all aforementioned pertinent =E2=80=8Bpolicy, standards, work, deci= sions, and > other output=E2=80=8B =E2=80=8Bshall be inherited by and devolved to it u= nless otherwise > specified by the LLG); the =E2=80=8Bfirst =E2=80=8Bmembership of the body= =E2=80=8Bherein > constituted =E2=80=8Bshall be =E2=80=8Bselected in a manner which the LLG= decides =E2=80=8Bto be > appropriate, which shall be determined later=E2=80=8B by the LLG; thereaf= ter, all > other selection and regulation of its membership shall be under the prima= ry > authority and review of the body itself, although any regular selection o= f > new membership shall not occur prior to the elapse of fully two calendric= al > years and six calendrical months after the original establishment of the > body=E2=80=8B and selection of its first membership; all membership appli= cations > and notice for such application shall be public; eligibility requirements > for membership to the body shall be subject to review and change by the L= LG > and must be explicitly established, with explicit permission of the LLG, > prior to the selection of any new membership of the body.=E2=80=8B The na= me of the > body herein constituted shall be determined by the LLG during or prior to= , > and as part of, the selection of its first membership.*=E2=80=8B"* > > --f403045e3ae89bc8b80562e6c96b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I hereby open voting on this proposal,= as stated below. I'm sorry it is preceded by so many indents. Voting w= ill close after that of Motions 4 and 5 to allow voting sequentially, there= fore it will be open at least through midnight of 1/20/18 GMT.=C2=A0
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Motion 6: "There shall be =E2=80=8Bauthorized, =E2= =80=8Bestablished=E2=80=8B, constituted,=E2=80=8B and organized a body=E2= =80=8B - under and by the authority of the LLG -=E2=80=8B which will=E2=80= =8B oversee,=E2=80=8B regulate=E2=80=8B, and (insofar as possible) enforce= =E2=80=8B the official implementation and application of LLG policy consist= ent with and pursuant=C2=A0to the content of the aforementioned motion prop= osals=C2=A0= (id est: Motion 4 or Motion 5), provided the passage of at least one thereof,=E2=80=8B= or any similar policy of the LLG=E2=80=8B and which shall search for eithe= r potential violations of the same or appropriate content which should be s= o disclaimed (regardless of any implemented policy or other mandate, and no= t pertaining to only websites or entities or content subject to the aforeme= ntioned policies of the LLG); when it finds such content but does not have = the authority to pursue such disclaimer with respect to said content, it sh= all notify the LLG of the situation and its recommendations pertaining to s= uch=E2=80=8B; =E2=80=8Bthis motion shall be inactive, vacuous, and=E2=80=8B= totally=E2=80=8B ignored if the aforementioned motion proposals=C2=A0(Motion 4, Motio= n 5)=C2=A0b= oth do not pass.=E2=80=8B =E2=80=8BAll of this body's authority shall b= e inferior to and subsumed by that of the LLG and shall be bounded by such = policy of the LLG and it shall not notify or attempt to regulate any entity= or content which is not subject to or the subject of such LLG policy, alth= ough it may search for and review such content.=E2=80=8B It will regulate t= he officially=E2=80=8B-=E2=80=8Bdesired design, implementation, usage=E2=80= =8B, and enforcement =E2=80=8Bof any such notice, protocol, or disclaimer= =E2=80=8B in the stead of the LLG directly=E2=80=8B. The body shall consist= of an odd number of members, numbering at least five. The body shall publi= sh all of its =E2=80=8Bdebate, =E2=80=8Bdecision=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B= =E2=80=8Bs=E2=80=8B, =E2=80=8Band work to the LLG and will notify the perti= nent websites and entities and other subjects, according to its own discret= ion or explicit and direct command by the LLG, as to its standards and poli= cies once such are concretely established=E2=80=8B. Whilst the body is cons= tituted, the LLG=E2=80=8B shall retain total right of oversight and control= over, but not necessarily responsibility for, the body and any of its oupu= t=E2=80=8B or decisions or actions or methods or works, as well as any matt= er belonging to its domain of purpose=E2=80=8B or its purview; the body sha= ll govern and organize itself and design and enforce its own internal rules= , its external standards, etc. =E2=80=8Binsofar as such does not conflict w= ith the decisions of the LLG=E2=80=8B, including the contents of this motio= n=E2=80=8B. The body shall be composed on the earliest of=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B= the first 1 January or first 1 June after its first membership is chosen, = after which point it shall exist for =E2=80=8Bfully =E2=80=8Bfour =E2=80=8B= calendrical =E2=80=8Byears and six =E2=80=8Bcalendrical =E2=80=8Bmonths and= then =E2=80=8Bshall =E2=80=8Bbe dissolved=E2=80=8B, disconstituted,=E2=80= =8B and discontinued in its entirety, unless its lifetime is extended=E2=80= =8B and such expiration is delayed in part or whole by explicit=E2=80=8B of= ficial action of the LLG; upon it=E2=80=8Bs expiration=E2=80=8B (described = previously)=E2=80=8B, all of its =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8Bpolicy= , standards, work, decisions, and other output shall devolve to=E2=80=8B an= d become the direct responsibility of=E2=80=8B the LLG and shall persist an= d remain active and valid =E2=80=8Bas =E2=80=8Bpolicy, standards, work, dec= isions, and other output=E2=80=8B (as appropriate) of and in the responsibi= lity of the LLG=E2=80=8B until the LLG=E2=80=8B explicitly decides otherwis= e=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B or upon the establishment and constitution of = another body or organization under the authority of the LLG which has or sh= all have purview which nonemptily intersects that of the body herein descri= bed (in which case, all aforementioned pertinent =E2=80=8Bpolicy, standards= , work, decisions, and other output=E2=80=8B =E2=80=8Bshall be inherited by= and devolved to it unless otherwise specified by the LLG); the =E2=80=8Bfi= rst =E2=80=8Bmembership of the body =E2=80=8Bherein constituted =E2=80=8Bsh= all be =E2=80=8Bselected in a manner which the LLG decides =E2=80=8Bto be a= ppropriate, which shall be determined later=E2=80=8B by the LLG; thereafter= , all other selection and regulation of its membership shall be under the p= rimary authority and review of the body itself, although any regular select= ion of new membership shall not occur prior to the elapse of fully two cale= ndrical years and six calendrical months after the original establishment o= f the body=E2=80=8B and selection of its first membership; all membership a= pplications and notice for such application shall be public; eligibility=C2= =A0requirements for membership to the body shall be subject to review and c= hange by the LLG and must be explicitly established, with explicit permissi= on of the LLG, prior to the selection of any new membership of the body.=E2= =80=8B The name of the body herein constituted shall be determined by the L= LG during or prior to, and as part of, the selection of its first membershi= p.=E2=80=8B= "
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On Jan 5, 2018 09:50, "Creative Care Services&qu= ot; <comcaresvcs@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
In addition to = the two other proposals regarding=C2=A0 unofficial content, included below = because this one refers to them, Curtis pointed out that he had made three = rather than two on this topic. The one we are considering here is listed be= low as number six.

This motion is now waiting to see if = anyone chooses to second it.=C2=A0

.karis.=C2=A0

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Concerning Unofficial So= cial Media Presences

Motion 4: "T= he LLG shall adopt an official policy that the LLG or some body constituted= by it for such purpose shall search for and monitor social media or blog p= latforms, accounts, pages, profiles, groups, communities, bots, etc. (herea= fter called "entities") which in any way whatsoever relate to, pr= omote, or use Lojban or other LLG-adopted logical languages and which are n= ot clearly human, personal, non-promoting, or unofficial - and that such a = body shall request such entities to prominently display a disclaimer statin= g that they are unofficial and not endorsed by the LLG."=
=C2=A0* I noted the following caveat with the original discussion whi= ch became a motion: "(I do not think that we can enforce such requests= , just make them. But having an official policy about addressing them may b= e good and gives us some moral 'standing')"
=C2=A0*= Moved by me, seconded by gleki.

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Motion 5: "All non-official pages or co= ntent on *.lojban.org= =C2=A0must contain a disclaimer stating, at least, that the website is owne= d and managed by voluntary people, and that the marked contents are not nec= essarily harmonized with the official design of Lojban and may not reflect,= let alone perfectly comply with, official specifications of the same.&q= uot;
* Moved by me, seconded by at least guskant and gleki.<= /font>

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Mo= tion 6: "There shall be =E2=80=8Bauthorized, =E2=80=8B= established=E2=80=8B, constituted,=E2=80=8B and organized a body=E2=80=8B -= under and by the authority of the LLG -=E2=80=8B which will=E2=80=8B overs= ee,=E2=80=8B regulate=E2=80=8B, and (insofar as possible) enforce=E2=80=8B = the official implementation and application of LLG policy consistent with a= nd pursuant=C2=A0to the content of the aforementioned motion proposals=C2= =A0(id est: Motion 4 or Motion 5), provided= the passage of at least one thereof,=E2=80=8B or any similar policy of the= LLG=E2=80=8B and which shall search for either potential violations of the= same or appropriate content which should be so disclaimed (regardless of a= ny implemented policy or other mandate, and not pertaining to only websites= or entities or content subject to the aforementioned policies of the LLG);= when it finds such content but does not have the authority to pursue such = disclaimer with respect to said content, it shall notify the LLG of the sit= uation and its recommendations pertaining to such=E2=80=8B; =E2=80=8Bthis m= otion shall be inactive, vacuous, and=E2=80=8B totally=E2=80=8B ignored if = the aforementioned motion proposals=C2=A0(Motion 4, Motion = 5)=C2=A0both do not pass.=E2=80=8B =E2=80=8BAll of this bod= y's authority shall be inferior to and subsumed by that of the LLG and = shall be bounded by such policy of the LLG and it shall not notify or attem= pt to regulate any entity or content which is not subject to or the subject= of such LLG policy, although it may search for and review such content.=E2= =80=8B It will regulate the officially=E2=80=8B-=E2=80=8Bdesired design, im= plementation, usage=E2=80=8B, and enforcement =E2=80=8Bof any such notice, = protocol, or disclaimer=E2=80=8B in the stead of the LLG directly=E2=80=8B.= The body shall consist of an odd number of members, numbering at least fiv= e. The body shall publish all of its =E2=80=8Bdebate, =E2=80=8Bdecision=E2= =80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8Bs=E2=80=8B, =E2=80=8Band work to the LLG a= nd will notify the pertinent websites and entities and other subjects, acco= rding to its own discretion or explicit and direct command by the LLG, as t= o its standards and policies once such are concretely established=E2=80=8B.= Whilst the body is constituted, the LLG=E2=80=8B shall retain total right = of oversight and control over, but not necessarily responsibility for, the = body and any of its ouput=E2=80=8B or decisions or actions or methods or wo= rks, as well as any matter belonging to its domain of purpose=E2=80=8B or i= ts purview; the body shall govern and organize itself and design and enforc= e its own internal rules, its external standards, etc. =E2=80=8Binsofar as = such does not conflict with the decisions of the LLG=E2=80=8B, including th= e contents of this motion=E2=80=8B. The body shall be composed on the earli= est of=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B the first 1 January or first 1 June after its firs= t membership is chosen, after which point it shall exist for =E2=80=8Bfully= =E2=80=8Bfour =E2=80=8Bcalendrical =E2=80=8Byears and six =E2=80=8Bcalendr= ical =E2=80=8Bmonths and then =E2=80=8Bshall =E2=80=8Bbe dissolved=E2=80=8B= , disconstituted,=E2=80=8B and discontinued in its entirety, unless its lif= etime is extended=E2=80=8B and such expiration is delayed in part or whole = by explicit=E2=80=8B official action of the LLG; upon it=E2=80=8Bs expirati= on=E2=80=8B (described previously)=E2=80=8B, all of its =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B= =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8Bpolicy, standards, work, decisions, and other output shal= l devolve to=E2=80=8B and become the direct responsibility of=E2=80=8B the = LLG and shall persist and remain active and valid =E2=80=8Bas =E2=80=8Bpoli= cy, standards, work, decisions, and other output=E2=80=8B (as appropriate) = of and in the responsibility of the LLG=E2=80=8B until the LLG=E2=80=8B exp= licitly decides otherwise=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B or upon the establishm= ent and constitution of another body or organization under the authority of= the LLG which has or shall have purview which nonemptily intersects that o= f the body herein described (in which case, all aforementioned pertinent = =E2=80=8Bpolicy, standards, work, decisions, and other output=E2=80=8B =E2= =80=8Bshall be inherited by and devolved to it unless otherwise specified b= y the LLG); the =E2=80=8Bfirst =E2=80=8Bmembership of the body =E2=80=8Bher= ein constituted =E2=80=8Bshall be =E2=80=8Bselected in a manner which the L= LG decides =E2=80=8Bto be appropriate, which shall be determined later=E2= =80=8B by the LLG; thereafter, all other selection and regulation of its me= mbership shall be under the primary authority and review of the body itself= , although any regular selection of new membership shall not occur prior to= the elapse of fully two calendrical years and six calendrical months after= the original establishment of the body=E2=80=8B and selection of its first= membership; all membership applications and notice for such application sh= all be public; eligibility=C2=A0requirements for membership to the body sha= ll be subject to review and change by the LLG and must be explicitly establ= ished, with explicit permission of the LLG, prior to the selection of any n= ew membership of the body.=E2=80=8B The name of the body herein constituted= shall be determined by the LLG during or prior to, and as part of, the sel= ection of its first membership.=E2=80=8B"
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