Received: from localhost ([::1]:51708 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ebbjt-00070T-1q; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:38:01 -0800 Received: from mail-yb0-f172.google.com ([209.85.213.172]:35274) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ebbjK-0006xy-3L for llg-members@lojban.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:37:29 -0800 Received: by mail-yb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id b18so8070120ybn.2 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:37:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=EZQHoHipA6o/F+r/pRIwnyw8es+IZpjafS1lojIc6/Q=; b=ZO1gdGO65ZwlaWLvmLKBdguKJCYdLt8EMFLsCLwxTvsZGLGy55N+jyPq9V2Qd5q82L YO9aP+a4R1leSY8IHaidEK2X4GMRdpRQ9lhJUo8c/WlXWtiPnGZWNzVXcAYcWACpBIQb n1JEabgsJEYGQIhrTm8i9YjZH6vdra2C49+yaEg6qh/pDU+I7cbVR9XwT4lhzE6uKDiX G47052wMI4R4pihZyZqLd2soT03APD3mJMbD8waQGpf/luDEr5pqZ48NL+AN9DmaCLLO 7qjrb9Rhwt9GzMd9+rz4YnN77u5UpMJ95N7b5Q9vvticJX4zBImTvU2ioV/pLujSE9wg Q50g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=EZQHoHipA6o/F+r/pRIwnyw8es+IZpjafS1lojIc6/Q=; b=kgbYM0ELLJKY8FCle7slu82bYLEPl4e5eIx9AXoZl6pQKVzD1lofpaG3uQ2CKGg9wT kdkbKLyN2rzfEENraHFigtuxKVYuyNBou0kMojGAGUZ6zs1Le58Im8eh1hLVjWmU+m/+ z+9KfNWbv8A+Jzlv+LLgi1w1gmWfMFkulbmMqn5RmYpJLQCiCy2moq52mgRrXdrW9JXT wDQgHTLbc/QcRnNAtWegv2tnLJW6wxpJlIQi/fmmfsa24A8X37+4X2oNvmFc5b5LjSWv qfugVoJu0i9AdC+R0J+TcW7LIoWIsl8Gsi3FiTDKHj8dAOKkksYBpr/HN/8yFEbr300A +I+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mKTvZ1AZr/N72yoML2fSQfMyMgBfLxvj5nv9/IMbWdDbJThS+Xx tAHjy1kVUPiwVyP3Sz3O2puSGyaJOnnjzC/ss0w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBosVxzMLjUXGzS/+gxeJV6HsVhMwxsz4rfNa7LLd/qTC0XG8wQRqyQ3VKnyJkZ3oNInL30GSWg4Is56iZID1lC8= X-Received: by 10.37.209.132 with SMTP id i126mr34487848ybg.29.1516149439895; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:37:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.199.2 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:37:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.199.2 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:37:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <71bdf1ab-68d1-fc41-51a8-c90e4ae03dd3@selpahi.de> References: <71bdf1ab-68d1-fc41-51a8-c90e4ae03dd3@selpahi.de> From: Curtis Franks Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:37:18 -0500 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Unfinished Business: BPFK X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5017213599698746099==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============5017213599698746099== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c06b32eca9e490562ee0c38" --94eb2c06b32eca9e490562ee0c38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I personally think that it is fine as it is (I try not to over-assume), but I am not opposed to you or someone else writing an alternative to your satisfaction. On Jan 16, 2018 18:49, "selpahi" wrote: > On 17.01.2018 00:40, And Rosta wrote: > >> On 5 Jan 2018 16:30, "selpahi" > selpahi@selpahi.de>> wrote: >> >> >> There's something else that should be clarified about And's >> definition. Does "unambiguous bidirectionality from PAS to >> phonological form and from phonological form to PAS" imply that >> every PAS has *exactly* one corresponding phonological form (as >> opposed to one or more)? >> >> No. (I didn't mean "biunique".) Every PAS should have at least one (but >> possibility more) corresponding phonological form (with the necessary >> caveats about new 'words' being created as necessary). Every phonologica= l >> form should correspond to exactly one PAS. >> > Good, then I agree. I just wanted to be sure that I knew what you meant. > Perhaps the wording of the motion should be thus clarified. > > ~~~mi'e la selpa'i > > --- > Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren gepr=C3=BCft. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --94eb2c06b32eca9e490562ee0c38 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I personally think that it is fine as it is (I try not to= over-assume), but I am not opposed to you or someone else writing an alter= native to your satisfaction.

On Jan 16, 2018 18:49, "selpahi" <selpahi@selpahi.de> wrote:
On 17.01.2018 00:40, And Rosta wro= te:
On 5 Jan 2018 16:30, "selpahi" <selpahi@selpahi.de <mailto:selpahi@selpahi.de>> wro= te:


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 There's something else that should be clarified about And= 's
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 definition. Does "unambiguous bidirectionality from PAS = to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 phonological form and from phonological form to PAS" imp= ly that
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 every PAS has *exactly* one corresponding phonological form (= as
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 opposed to one or more)?

No. (I didn't mean "biunique".) Every PAS should have at leas= t one (but possibility more) corresponding phonological form (with the nece= ssary caveats about new 'words' being created as necessary). Every = phonological form should correspond to exactly one PAS.
Good, then I agree. I just wanted to be sure that I knew what you meant. Pe= rhaps the wording of the motion should be thus clarified.

~~~mi'e la selpa'i

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