Received: from localhost ([::1]:58080 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1erGyV-0001rm-NO; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 21:41:51 -0800 Received: from mail-vk0-f53.google.com ([209.85.213.53]:44862) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1erGxz-0001q0-Ur for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 21:41:20 -0800 Received: by mail-vk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id t126so2992769vkb.11 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 21:41:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=W76eOQw/TmDiLxR92i+alyScpGXLzHaGfe7/BEGRXRc=; b=WRNaDKDDcvNTnvoaAuwWghfgPbo2F7gpw11avkKQiuNQcXWTKQNhlG3I4olpuBVTcD fH6TeCCWAst0RQaNrrprXTtOnlsGUSXw+o9ZpsidCdBNrEuzsHOfMOpjSRoMG50FuthD pa5fUwxhtxxN5x0RhBSIcPIo12bPCXtMwlFO3jlcHiLPQLprl6RFvg5v4hEiXhJN3rT0 fkMThXFeMtz5J9d54O91zIfYQiE/5A5aDQHdAmkQsxgfCxh47PMvxmVB/ni0ZhqDIkzJ dX6l//7nkydDhsZ3gfQmh1KN9MN/cqYJ6ukwwkaqHZTMvwp8fqBhiFmuENuROgavo9sg G3dQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=W76eOQw/TmDiLxR92i+alyScpGXLzHaGfe7/BEGRXRc=; b=E4AP3nDzOb9Rw5YVQIpP4PwwCpLhtvFntEq35xR2pPMOpmNbBb2I+mLNH/4vkOYzI9 nztdEV1+Y5Qdd+zWHXd4UBmA7FE/4hb1kB/5xMbC5Gf2I8U7yzgz6FbAp8cMGCqSHbrE d60vdzjwjO1zQEklehHNFBk46FQJQdrgmfCFMaDo/0NMqdWS7udjYQMZ498xcbeXmx1k eYPu+yzlJ882W3WYnkuSo8IGbn/QU+FMNL0CXZcW0zz2GDi0JIjdKbE8fVwvIAuCC6Tu 3xDmml47ywbmN5/52UaK/+AAeDb7qnkvlt95nqfwnu/dNvNyZNgwK9d9uQNFc4J2hSId KV6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDS4V7RWC+oneQeFYTAjLfpBbHvz8yQ8eUBrLskbjGk7zd3xICa We4jdXJo08AaJFurm5Tx73P86SzqxAu4sstroio= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELtGQMz588/ZGIS4pnd1m9RwpY+w6sCujBNJ+zD109WymHnkAPT1vrg+ehyqWdZnoYCQDZculPDz8IEcQ2erDN4= X-Received: by 10.31.114.74 with SMTP id n71mr374526vkc.190.1519882872831; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 21:41:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.18.80 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 21:41:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.176.18.80 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 21:41:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3b9cd3a6-a94d-dac4-1e57-4addec5fe792@lojban.org> References: <3b9cd3a6-a94d-dac4-1e57-4addec5fe792@lojban.org> From: Creative Care Services Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:41:11 -0500 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Meeting over? X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7688504256773486187==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============7688504256773486187== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c14c0d6bc45920566534e8e" --94eb2c14c0d6bc45920566534e8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thank you, lojbab. As soon as I can spend an hour or so I'll go through and sort out the votes. .karis. On Feb 28, 2018 16:16, "Bob LeChevalier" wrote: > On 2/27/2018 10:03 PM, Creative Care Services wrote: > >> Another question: What is proper procedure when several people have voted >> and there is silence from everyone else? Does it all depend on what the >> quorum number is? >> > > I believe that if there is already a quorum established before the vote, > then if you allow a reasonable time period in which people should vote, > then that the end of that time period, you can determine the result based > on those who have already voted, even if there is only 1 vote (every one > else is presumed to have abstained). > > A new quorum check can be called for, if you or some member doesn't think > that a quorum is currently attending the meeting. But I suspect that is > not really the problem. Rather I think that most members who have been > silent either do not understand that there is a vote in progress and/or > don't have an opinion on the issue being voted on. > > In the last several meetings I held several votes on motions, in which > only a few people actually voted. Indeed, if there seemed to be no > opposition to a motion (based on discussion), I would announce the voting > period with a statement that "if there is no objection by such and such a > time, I will rule that the motion has been adopted". (I use that for most > motions in the Board meetings.) > > lojbab > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --94eb2c14c0d6bc45920566534e8e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you, lojbab.

As soon as I can spend an hour or so I'll go through and sort ou= t the votes.=C2=A0

.kari= s.

On = Feb 28, 2018 16:16, "Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
On 2/27/2018 10:03 PM, Creative Care Services wr= ote:
Another question: What is proper procedure when several people have voted a= nd there is silence from everyone else? Does it all depend on what the quor= um number is?

I believe that if there is already a quorum established before the vote, th= en if you allow a reasonable time period in which people should vote, then = that the end of that time period, you can determine the result based on tho= se who have already voted, even if there is only 1 vote (every one else is = presumed to have abstained).

A new quorum check can be called for, if you or some member doesn't thi= nk that a quorum is currently attending the meeting.=C2=A0 But I suspect th= at is not really the problem.=C2=A0 Rather I think that most members who ha= ve been silent either do not understand that there is a vote in progress an= d/or don't have an opinion on the issue being voted on.

In the last several meetings I held several votes on motions, in which only= a few people actually voted.=C2=A0 Indeed, if there seemed to be no opposi= tion to a motion (based on discussion), I would announce the voting period = with a statement that "if there is no objection by such and such a tim= e, I will rule that the motion has been adopted".=C2=A0 (I use that fo= r most motions in the Board meetings.)

lojbab

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