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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 09:39:15 -0500
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I am not traveling, but like Karen, I am distracted by other commitments.

This is not the kind of attention that I'd like to give to the meeting. I continue to be convinced that it is not practical to conduct these meetings by email: In part because it is difficult to follow the course of the meeting, and in part because it causes the meeting to sprawl over long periods of time. It's hard for people to sustain attention and plan around an unbounded commitment like that. Personally, I'm finding it near impossible.

Given that it is March 2018 and this is still the 2017 meeting, I would urge that we admit defeat and terminate the meeting, with any items that were raised but which did not receive final vote tallies deferred to the 2018 meeting. As long as we have a Board and have re-authorized BPFK to continue its work, I think our job is done.

I would also urge that we schedule the 2018 meeting to take place at a time that is fixed and bounded. I don't see that we have more than a few hours of business to discuss. This may be obscured by the fact that complex measures with little prior discussion and apparently little support have been introduced for debate. When the meeting drags out for months and people lose the thread or become distracted with other matters, we risk enacting decisions that don't accurately reflect the will of the body or of the community that we serve. This defeats the purpose of the meeting.

I would urge my fellow members to introduce and debate complex and controversial matters outside of the meeting, so that we can keep the meetings to a reasonable length. Debates don't gain anything from the meeting format, where they have to compete for attention with other meeting business, and where visibility and participation is limited to LLG members.

--Riley


> On Feb 26, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
> 
> On 2/25/2018 7:30 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
>> Why is everyone silent? What should the next actions be?
> 
> 
> I believe that the meeting is not over.
> 
> My understanding is that Karen is dealing with a severe family health situation involving her elderly mother.
> 
> I could in theory take over running the meeting as VP, but I admit that I haven't been following the meeting that closely due to health and family distractions, and I am not sure what the status is regarding the rats nest of motions that were all on the floor at once.
> 
> And I am not sure that mukti as secretary is following closely either, due to his frequent traveling.  Otherwise, he could inform us as to his understanding of the status of all motions, and I could take over the meeting on that basis.
> 
> Thus I suggest we just hang on for a little while longer and hope that Karen checks in soon, and she can then decide to finish the meeting or turn over the chair to me with the status made clear.
> 
> lojbab
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