Received: from localhost ([::1]:40654 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f0CnI-00028n-OA; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:03:12 -0700 Received: from mail-yb0-f169.google.com ([209.85.213.169]:33320) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f0Cml-00027Q-8O for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:02:41 -0700 Received: by mail-yb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id b4-v6so5742814ybi.0 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:02:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=TEMpVg5MrE+zx2v0RK2I1RPbilQD/tBm8jLlPImfUi8=; b=bzph1QIRJSlED+iMgCVfKUM0c4m21xezBh9MxVIFZm4iDjOls6Seo/JUGnqo4lDjKz BC+XuT1XT99ShecRA9kxeiKhK5O8rnJ5aUCDelkWmwIK/mLyNveySk1tqaqcieuAD1Yn eM8nWUskAe9P7c3dw6Sfps1jfUtVhNHC077OdmiCl/v5ghu9gYJNCvpTmKDdOgthVPBj z6hiVAlFNcABII5Oh5fmvTM3tcUnHV00S/hCDAolxAkd8StN66h+1IQP3hC2yjgJXqpU xYPXT0pbuBnzi9lV0x6+MFAFkKN61GLaQisJPLI4iyZycd7AooDUJlZGfP6xsXJBMun2 K1bQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=TEMpVg5MrE+zx2v0RK2I1RPbilQD/tBm8jLlPImfUi8=; b=Qk3+tDXPYKFmpZa5+I0xxRqB9KUBtEy53RhfRp5+RnG5OgznOLwW+JCp0XN8pZ6dQ9 lsrhpeU6F0xpoQsCSJfSS3z1I0rKap3RVYCdidQ72qS/iKWu9Fhi54p6JwJo2CFAbI6a 1LjqSQh74IGsIP4q4iysMbRr6DL6P5dFwTQZDNwEtJlFLumcFftKoHZZ95i7M6AlhJIx cKpMv4zmplo3knO/i2bRmpcb4yfsSivHHZZnDI+UqHKJL+sjslTh/NXlBCpvUMKkfab/ d2HvrmjMrYyKU3Cf9R8fyC8S9nWCmfUHUhcKjxxdB4aaAZVWQkJUOF+bMTVgkxZJjpSc QEMg== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7F3shh2ierP/4b3JVcsG+8eYmv58WGEnY8Hgozj+mfNrBHvUc2D M0jTAwYEQ1XHTFb+pXbuhEi1Nv/dU35/6uza8XM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELtRz0dV8V9faGkPgiz+3rWEsie7BG0duNKylgntnlcimYsUw0Yul+rvLwm5txOnw0/7PUgH127WZuq6TGh0UmQ= X-Received: by 2002:a25:3a42:: with SMTP id h63-v6mr22013766yba.417.1522011752612; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:02:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Curtis Franks Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:02:22 +0000 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] next meeting format X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3556993521329441824==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============3556993521329441824== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000dbc7b9056842f9b0" --000000000000dbc7b9056842f9b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Would we be doing audio/vocal or text communication. I am somewhat familiar with Discord, but it does not much matter to me as far as my ease of usage goes. I would prefer to have permanent records of every communication - whether that is audio/vocal, video, or just text. Discord is the best of these options for this purpose. I am not sure that it preserves non-text records (for audio or video communications), but I have alternative means for recording those if necessary (although I may not be the best at it, so someone else may want to take that responsibility, possibly in addition to me). An issue is that Discord has only one feed for communication unless we break into subgroups. Thus, we will need to be really organized with our discussions. Each subject should be discussed completely and in a self-contained way before moving on to the next one; each point should be labelled so that others may specifically address/reference it in their replies. Even then, keeping track of conversation branches will be hard and, when we review the log while making notes, segregating the topics in retrospect will have to be done manually because it will not all be self-sorted. Maybe we can begin each new subject with a series of asterisks or something so that breaks are really obvious and the log will be searchable. Since this will be live and quick, a lot of burden will be placed upon the President, Vice-President, Secretary, and Parliamentarian. ~~~ Curtis W. Franks On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 15:28 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > So I propose either Slack or Discord or IRC for the next meeting. > > Telegram requires having a phone number, which some members might not have > so this option should be avoided imo. > > On Slack Lojbanists already have an informal Lojbanic place. Everyone can > create a new room there. Registering is possible via > https://slaka.herokuapp.com Chat logs are preserved for a few days. > > On Discord Lojbanists have https://discord.gg/c8weYzf Chat logs are > preserved. > > Everyone here knows what is IRC. Chat logs are not preserved unless you > use specific software. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Creative Care Services > Date: 2018-03-25 21:49 GMT+03:00 > Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Tabulation of votes, motion to adjourn > To: llg-members@lojban.org > > > As I believe that is sufficient votes, I hereby declare the 2017 meeting > of the LLG Membership adjourned. Further, less official discussion is > welcome in this chat. > > .karis. > President, Logical Language Group > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 12:18 LLG Secretary wrote: > >> Per request of the president, here is a tabulation of votes on the motion >> to adjourn. >> >> Aye (10): >> Pierre >> Lojbab >> Curtis >> Karis >> Adam >> Ilmen >> Riley >> Alex >> Veion >> Ali >> >> Abstain (1): >> guskant >> >> No (1): >> selpa'i >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --000000000000dbc7b9056842f9b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Would we be doing audio/vocal or text communication.=

I am somewhat familiar with D= iscord, but it does not much matter to me as far as my ease of usage goes.<= /div>

I would prefer to have p= ermanent records of every communication - whether that is audio/vocal, vide= o, or just text. Discord is the best of these options for this purpose. I a= m not sure that it preserves non-text records (for audio or video communica= tions), but I have alternative means for recording those if necessary (alth= ough I may not be the best at it, so someone else may want to take that res= ponsibility, possibly in addition to me).

=
An issue is that Discord has only one feed for communicat= ion unless we break into subgroups. Thus, we will need to be really organiz= ed with our discussions. Each subject should be discussed completely and in= a self-contained way before moving on to the next one; each point should b= e labelled so that others may specifically address/reference it in their re= plies. Even then, keeping track of conversation branches will be hard and, = when we review the log while making notes, segregating the topics in retros= pect will have to be done manually because it will not all be self-sorted. = Maybe we can begin each new subject with a series of asterisks or something= so that breaks are really obvious and the log will be searchable.

Since this will be live and quic= k, a lot of burden will be placed upon the President, Vice-President, Secre= tary, and Parliamentarian.

~~~ Curtis W. Franks


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 15:28 Glek= i Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.na= me@gmail.com> wrote:
So I propose either Slack or Discord or IRC for the next mee= ting.

Telegram requires having a phone number, whi= ch some members might not have so this option should be avoided imo.
<= div>
On Slack Lojbanists already have an informal Lojbanic place. = Everyone can create a new room there. Registering is possible via https= ://slaka.herokuapp.com Chat logs are preserved for a few days.

=
On Discord Lojbanists have=C2=A0https://discord.gg/c8weYzf = Chat logs are preserved.

Everyone here knows what = is IRC. Chat logs are not preserved unless you use specific software.

---------- Forwarded message ----------From: Creative Care Services <comcaresvcs@gmail.com>
Date: 2018-03-25 21= :49 GMT+03:00
Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Tabulation of votes, motion to = adjourn
To: llg-members@lojban.org


= As I believe that is sufficient votes,=C2=A0 I hereby declare the 2017 meet= ing of the LLG Membership adjourned. Further, less official discussion is w= elcome in this chat.

.karis.= =C2=A0
President, Logical Language Group
=

On Sat, = Mar 24, 2018, 12:18 LLG Secretary <shunpiker@gmail.com> wrote:
Per request of th= e president, here is a tabulation of votes on the motion to adjourn.

Aye (10):
Pierre
Lojbab
Curtis
Karis
Adam
Ilmen
Riley
Alex
Veion
Ali

Abstain (1):
guskant

No (1):
selpa'i


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