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Here is how it's done in Slack: http://joxi.net/Dr8Xo51tkwO3Or Any message can become a seed to a whole thread. Channel categories are forethought things. You can not know beforehand which topics will be raised or (sic!) what a certain topic will *shift into* . Ideally, we'd want a tree-like structure 1. like commenting system at jbovlaste.lojban.org or 2. like when one creates new threads by changing topics of email messages and other people replying to particular messages. Not chaning the topic of en email message equals to continuing the thread, changing the topic means opening a new thread. (we may even consider a hypergraph system like https://github.com/woost/wust but it could be an overkill) > I don't know what Discord permission is needed to be able to create new > #-categories but I suppose it is possible to give all the members this > power somehow. > > > Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > Among self-hosted ones > Mattermost supports threads (Mattermost can be installed e.g. via > https://github.com/mozilla/mattermost-heroku/). > Rocket.Chats do not support threads: https://github.com/ > RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/issues/1112 > > Self-hosting software seems to me like an overkill. > > Also note that Slack retains not more than 10,000 messages in its free of > charge plan. > > > 2018-04-30 8:33 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks : > >> I prefer threads. >> >> ~~~ Curtis W. Franks >> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 01:25 Gleki Arxokuna >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> 2018-04-30 4:43 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks : >>> >>>> According to this ( https://feedback.discordapp. >>>> com/forums/326712-discord-dream-land/suggestions/15859336- >>>> threaded-text-chat ), which is not even a month old, it seems to be >>>> impossible. I see multiple other requests for the same feature going back >>>> several years, so it seems that either it is impossible or a decent >>>> fraction of the prospective Discord community does not know how to do it >>>> (of course, my search is going to bias my results). >>>> >>>> I should add that I did not read the entire page all the way - just a >>>> few comments in order to make sure that no-one immediately told the >>>> original poster that threading is indeed possible. If someone did so later >>>> on, though, then I definitely missed it. >>>> >>> >>> Neither does Gitter: https://gitter.im/gitt >>> erHQ/topics/topic/57f4e71fe581953f7e9b9833/integrating-topics-with-chat >>> >>> We then need to decide if we need threads that is whether we shall >>> discuss several topics in parallel. >>> If some of us do then we need to think of software that supports it. As >>> I said Slack does. Maybe other (or other self hosted) software can do that, >>> idk. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ~~~ Curtis >>>> >>>> > > > Garanti > sans virus. www.avast.com > > <#m_5150670592946191930_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --0000000000000b4e35056b3dce2a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2018-05-02 21:30 GMT+03:00 Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com>= ;:
=20 =20 =20
How about using channel categories as threads?

Person A utters something and this message must have an a= bility to start a new thread.

Here is how it's= done in Slack:
Any message can become a seed to= a whole thread.
Channel categories are forethought things. You c= an not know beforehand which topics will be raised or (sic!) what a certain= topic will shift into.

Ideally, we'd w= ant a tree-like structure=C2=A0
1. like commenting system at jbovlaste.lojban.org or=C2=A0
=
2. like when one creates new threads by changing topics of email messa= ges and other people replying to particular messages. Not chaning the topic= of en email message equals to continuing the thread, changing the topic me= ans opening a new thread.



(we may even consider a hypergraph system like https://github.com/woost/wust but it could be an ov= erkill)


=C2=A0
I don't know what Discord permission is needed to be able to create new #-categories but I suppose it is possible to give all the members this power somehow.


Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
Among self-hosted ones
Mattermost supports threads (Mattermost can be installed e.g. via https://github.com/mozilla/mattermost-heroku/)= .
Rocket.Chats do not support threads:=C2=A0https://git= hub.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/issues/1112

Self-hosting software seems to me like an overkill.

Also note that Slack retains not more than 10,000 messages in its free of charge plan.


2018-04-30 8:33 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gmail.com>:
I prefer threads.

~~~ Curtis W. Franks

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 01:25 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:


2018-04-30 4:43 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gmail.com>:
According to this (=C2=A0https://fee= dback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-land/suggestions= /15859336-threaded-text-chat ), which is not even a month old, it seems to be impossible. I see multiple other requests for the same feature going back several years, so it seems that either it is impossible or a decent fraction of the prospective Discord community does not know how to do it (of course, my search is going to bias my results).

I should add that I did not read the entire page all the way - just a few comments in order to make sure that no-one immediately told the original poster that threading is indeed possible. If someone did so later on, though, then I definitely missed it.


We then need to decide if we need threads that is whether we shall discuss several topics in parallel.
If some of us do then we need to think of software that supports it. As I said Slack does. Maybe other (or other self hosted) software can do that, idk.

=C2=A0


~~~ Curtis



3D""= Garanti sans v= irus. www.avast.com

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