Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59456 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fFLAE-0001u5-KF; Sun, 06 May 2018 08:01:26 -0700 Received: from mail-yw0-f177.google.com ([209.85.161.177]:45245) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fFL9i-0001sf-8O for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 06 May 2018 08:00:55 -0700 Received: by mail-yw0-f177.google.com with SMTP id g9-v6so7951550ywb.12 for ; Sun, 06 May 2018 08:00:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=bc0ZpGoK55/LdOi5glHLV37Weg/Y5YHV9nQjLD9/Q7Y=; b=Yu8SzlRQEIjT8x27l7EqqKQIr8yaMpatzEOO7hTf+bcQfGMVET1DGLnIFZ/frIcKsa Tgf9+PqSs2QhDrNXR0wW5PTriJ8GDIz0JJ4YbSZWHZRTCR3fYzfTzO5/LdtYj/DQeZ8j q4JFqhISqfhIXRFjuutG55rDkMrcllMbbB3k+gqWoqgFBuxjAsdvJJDulxMIvdhtlpee 2SxE26BlKiyvABXb9jiOQpK34qQT0ktffrJYy8d3sHQAMHjPBP+Dk5dSW+xLCY7k95Aw m13T5F2oi1PASB5f5uOTmsV+QMXDaiCH/cJ79jCzGW3OT+FjSCakcVh7d+WqZxsYP/eV HDfA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=bc0ZpGoK55/LdOi5glHLV37Weg/Y5YHV9nQjLD9/Q7Y=; b=fKU6eJ5/L/aNQE+yVDO5It9OoTJjkvtPqZFq7afxsArBS64eKPDsRsUjh7pBJzvNyf Qa/6xpmRShrUzo+yuatO7ThPDe6jwui47AfGbdbaRj2DQXZkB/gdIabVaNCiAg7RY2SJ KWFq7PPUxtntuzErD/bnv+ea6wW8710JzLaEdA1ZOu2A0t9tfYALaP8p+nxno9b9sxNq 0MsyJEHWY4Ht66Q910HwBttmfxpY2hydyDSo9iYu+MrI2l5AjK0+AqghlISpcDicuCHD d0B+Lp9MXrzKy1Mk/12dWRyyJSxm+xPgrCG7yHHeDcqx7QOyZrG16FGQ+lbaQIfetMtN ta1g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tAmaKKbK3hCKJ5i4rO1HqlCF2M6+InK4+0MY5Jf3G+tLiLWOc4x yuLG/ZGymwndqdZeVIBkmjrwOgpfBnANYKzfpMc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZqS3ZxZ1vqcVusC3N6Dlin+iNqxSvUQ+mK6Wa0u5Vc/Z061Zp75Sntp08y0aNg8emX06F/lm4a6FkClEraanAg= X-Received: by 2002:a81:6d16:: with SMTP id i22-v6mr18791095ywc.385.1525618847037; Sun, 06 May 2018 08:00:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Curtis Franks Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 15:00:36 +0000 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] next meeting format X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8885110369462224043==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============8885110369462224043== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000070be91056b8ad196" --00000000000070be91056b8ad196 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Linear chat option: WhatsApp. ~~~ Curtis W. Franks On Sat, May 5, 2018, 16:37 Creative Care Services wrote: > I want necessarily thinking we'd totally stop using the mailing list. I'm > not sure how copying the entire transcript into an email is the best way to > maintain a copy of it, but that can be a later discussion. > > In any case, in light of more information about Mattermost I'm happy to > spend some time aquainting myself with it. It's up to all of you if you > want to start taking in the meeting which I called to order earlier on > Discord. In any case, please do put your agenda items on the agenda list: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gumct5aLJCn0kTPzhWs0YJSbCM--nz1BCvkGPJgbsoc/edit?usp=drivesdk > > Are there any more comments regarding the choice between Discord and > Mattermost? > > .karis. > > On Sat, May 5, 2018, 15:15 Gleki Arxokuna > wrote: > >> >> >> 2018-05-05 20:58 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services >> : >> >>> Also, what server would we use? >>> >> >> >> Mattermost is kinda clone of Slack except >> 1. it's opensource >> 2. threads appeared there even earlier than in Slack >> 3. it retains all the records once you host it. >> 4. https://framateam.org offers free hosting of mattermost. Looking at >> Pepper&Carrot logs ( >> https://framateam.org/peppercarrot/channels/town-square) I can see the >> messages from February 2017 are still preserved. >> 5. we can of course host mattermost ourselves in which case I suggest >> that we contact Robin (the installation instructions >> are >> straightforward). But I think that's superfluous, framateam can serve us >> for now. Don't we want to download the logs and post them here after each >> meeting anyway? Do we want to totally abandon discussions via this mailing >> list? >> >> As for Wust/hypergraph discussions/Elephant >> they deserve a separate >> discussion with probably the only solution in employing Someone to write a >> new piece of software for our needs. >> >> >>> >>> On Sat, May 5, 2018, 13:25 Creative Care Services >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Do you mind explaining a bit more about how it does operate, then? >>>> Specific questions I have right now are how long does it maintain records, >>>> and what is involved in managing a server - equivalent? >>>> >>>> .karis. >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Llg-members mailing list >>> Llg-members@lojban.org >>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --00000000000070be91056b8ad196 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Linear chat option: WhatsApp.

~~~ Curtis W. Franks

On Sat, May 5, 2018, 16:37 Creative Care Services= <comcaresvcs@gmail.com>= wrote:
I want ne= cessarily thinking we'd totally stop using the mailing list. I'm no= t sure how copying the entire transcript into an email is the best way to m= aintain a copy of it, but that can be a later discussion.
=
In any case, in light of more information about= Mattermost I'm happy to spend some time aquainting myself with it. It&= #39;s up to all of you if you want to start taking in the meeting which I c= alled to order earlier on Discord. In any case, please do put your agenda i= tems on the agenda list:=C2=A0

Are ther= e any more comments regarding the choice between Discord and Mattermost?

.karis.=C2=A0
<= br>
On Sat, May 5, 2018, 15:15 G= leki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wro= te:


2018-05-05 20:58 GMT+03:00 = Creative Care Services <comca= resvcs@gmail.com>:
Also, what server would we use?=C2=A0


Mattermost is kinda clone of S= lack except
1. it's opensource
2. threads appeared = there even earlier than in Slack
3. it retains all the records on= ce you host it.
4. https://framateam.org of= fers free hosting of mattermost. Looking at Pepper&Carrot logs (https://framateam.org/pepperca= rrot/channels/town-square) I can see the messages from February 2017 ar= e still preserved.
5. we can of course host mattermost ourselves = in which case I suggest that we contact Robin (the installation instructions are straightforward)= . But I think that's superfluous, framateam can serve us for now. Don&#= 39;t we want to download the logs and post them here after each meeting any= way? Do we want to totally abandon discussions via this mailing list?
=

As for Wust/hypergraph discussions/Elephant=C2=A0they deserve a separate discussion with prob= ably the only solution in employing Someone to write a new piece of softwar= e for our needs.
=C2=A0

= On Sat, May 5, 2018, 13:25 Creative Care Services <comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you mind ex= plaining a bit more about how it does operate, then? Specific questions I h= ave right now are how long does it maintain records, and what is involved i= n managing a server - equivalent?

.karis.=C2=A0

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