Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35354 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fFO1E-000129-7M; Sun, 06 May 2018 11:04:20 -0700 Received: from mail-ot0-f182.google.com ([74.125.82.182]:43712) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fFO0g-00010N-Ne for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 06 May 2018 11:03:48 -0700 Received: by mail-ot0-f182.google.com with SMTP id y10-v6so29612376otg.10 for ; Sun, 06 May 2018 11:03:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Dor9JPxjmI94Xsd0B8u4RCor9ktfWnII+qJ4ui7ugpE=; b=IHlaF+arrLnpHegzmn0Wwj0fTGuTbDn1QHxJsG1zO1ArQyhemWmTl0n9407WCAISCk mxdGhtjJNlomcRHMKMJDdPsV2ZWbf+Jr7NofPPX2ewfyw+oZydBzJGMRctbLA+BmnxtN s0+uLJlEH8zwPmQ6rWo8Cv09vZDwWugx3g5xQYETMeFkK8vnoLfWbKjk0x5aNVNi5IX1 VMpsP+hUFMYdrVPlWL5YqSxSLcIlXVRVivkLiKRbzSAniJVnBdNcfZ2d2tvqzvQmyTrK +AevQhWBUaBjVMxzg5XtEH35cz94EHxGfcee2+XzxMKOSNHuXB1fkjbXAOko8TR6Akje FmvA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Dor9JPxjmI94Xsd0B8u4RCor9ktfWnII+qJ4ui7ugpE=; b=dy6SNr8BgIucHDa6IGMX6xElYjnMCiZeJ/XseZgfnWkQT6eSvc9hrmzC+C0MiqyvqD hYCLbQGODLJOEvJ99hdMjiqaUpsvc2vmxLOlMhkeQ3QVS/wpm60dbDDlavbMv6KeYp2q vCQoEJk88G3E28VOQALeS1nKMJOunVVGpCj3o2Le2D/hmqzGWy1b+Yy7DnvDrBcqj0aH 6hUf76BNmHi3brnfSwXYcMODdZhegmVI57k4+rrDSClCiwZrQEn15x9X4uWoZGtaT1U4 IPoc07N5/lrKfW8ptma1qhfVbVhQIlBci+l9pk8ovx+ANhSwkR1elBAtkl5mpfpNCflJ cmWA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tD7a07PmcS5E1jAmhlaD5Ta/4Xk93hZ/oCBMkN3Cc4n43R6PV3i HK4VxpMMETQa5xHFY6WW0PaYQz/Hb0bHLC7fJQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZoQWjRpsC20ytQBQU4cH0D9HwAQOayuOymnpLiWTeb/Xyjb0TEL8vYitAHEhVXrZF3+vyVtE4Le0HzY3DvMPow= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:3c68:: with SMTP id j37-v6mr25662767ote.354.1525629819759; Sun, 06 May 2018 11:03:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.201.41.161 with HTTP; Sun, 6 May 2018 11:02:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 21:02:59 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.0 X-Spam_score_int: -9 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] next meeting format X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0290231025437865184==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============0290231025437865184== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007730fc056b8d5f18" --0000000000007730fc056b8d5f18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2018-05-06 18:00 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks : > Linear chat option: WhatsApp. > Not all of us have phone numbers. Hence Telegram and WhatsApp should be probably excluded. > ~~~ Curtis W. Franks > > On Sat, May 5, 2018, 16:37 Creative Care Services > wrote: > >> I want necessarily thinking we'd totally stop using the mailing list. I'm >> not sure how copying the entire transcript into an email is the best way to >> maintain a copy of it, but that can be a later discussion. >> >> In any case, in light of more information about Mattermost I'm happy to >> spend some time aquainting myself with it. It's up to all of you if you >> want to start taking in the meeting which I called to order earlier on >> Discord. In any case, please do put your agenda items on the agenda list: >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gumct5aLJCn0kTPzhWs0YJSbCM-- >> nz1BCvkGPJgbsoc/edit?usp=drivesdk >> >> Are there any more comments regarding the choice between Discord and >> Mattermost? >> >> .karis. >> >> On Sat, May 5, 2018, 15:15 Gleki Arxokuna >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> 2018-05-05 20:58 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services >> >: >>> >>>> Also, what server would we use? >>>> >>> >>> >>> Mattermost is kinda clone of Slack except >>> 1. it's opensource >>> 2. threads appeared there even earlier than in Slack >>> 3. it retains all the records once you host it. >>> 4. https://framateam.org offers free hosting of mattermost. Looking at >>> Pepper&Carrot logs (https://framateam.org/peppercarrot/channels/town- >>> square) I can see the messages from February 2017 are still preserved. >>> 5. we can of course host mattermost ourselves in which case I suggest >>> that we contact Robin (the installation instructions >>> are >>> straightforward). But I think that's superfluous, framateam can serve us >>> for now. Don't we want to download the logs and post them here after each >>> meeting anyway? Do we want to totally abandon discussions via this mailing >>> list? >>> >>> As for Wust/hypergraph discussions/Elephant >>> they deserve a separate >>> discussion with probably the only solution in employing Someone to write a >>> new piece of software for our needs. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 5, 2018, 13:25 Creative Care Services < >>>> comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do you mind explaining a bit more about how it does operate, then? >>>>> Specific questions I have right now are how long does it maintain records, >>>>> and what is involved in managing a server - equivalent? >>>>> >>>>> .karis. >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Llg-members mailing list >>>> Llg-members@lojban.org >>>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Llg-members mailing list >>> Llg-members@lojban.org >>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --0000000000007730fc056b8d5f18 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2018-05-06 18:00 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gma= il.com>:
= Linear chat option: WhatsApp.

Not= all of us have phone numbers. Hence Telegram and WhatsApp should be probab= ly excluded.=C2=A0


~~~ Curtis W. Fran= ks

On Sat, May 5, 2018, 16:37 Creative Care Service= s <comcaresvc= s@gmail.com> wrote:
I want necessarily thinking we'd totally stop using the maili= ng list. I'm not sure how copying the entire transcript into an email i= s the best way to maintain a copy of it, but that can be a later discussion= .

In any case, in light of mor= e information about Mattermost I'm happy to spend some time aquainting = myself with it. It's up to all of you if you want to start taking in th= e meeting which I called to order earlier on Discord. In any case, please d= o put your agenda items on the agenda list:=C2=A0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gumct5aLJCn0kTPzhWs0YJSb= CM--nz1BCvkGPJgbsoc/edit?usp=3Ddrivesdk

Are there any more comments regarding the cho= ice between Discord and Mattermost?

.karis.=C2=A0

On Sat, May 5, 2018, 15:15 Gleki Arxokuna <= gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:


2018-05-05 20:58 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services <comcaresvcs@gmail.com>:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Also, wh= at server would we use?=C2=A0


Mattermost is kinda clone of Slack except
1. it's ope= nsource
2. threads appeared there even earlier than in Slack
3. it retains all the records once you host it.
4. https://framateam.org offers free hosting of mattermost. Lo= oking at Pepper&Carrot logs (https://framateam.org/peppercarrot/channels/town-squa= re) I can see the messages from February 2017 are still preserved.
5. we can of course host mattermost ourselves in which case I suggest= that we contact Robin (the installation instructions are straightforward). But I think that'= s superfluous, framateam can serve us for now. Don't we want to downloa= d the logs and post them here after each meeting anyway? Do we want to tota= lly abandon discussions via this mailing list?

<= div>=C2=A0

Do you mind explaining a bit more about how it does operate, then? S= pecific questions I have right now are how long does it maintain records, a= nd what is involved in managing a server - equivalent?

.karis.=C2=A0

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