Return-path: Envelope-to: llg-members-archive@lojban.org Delivery-date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:01:30 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48568 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1mQ901-00H5OH-Fn; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:01:25 -0700 Received: from mail-ot1-f49.google.com ([209.85.210.49]:36627) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1mQ8zy-00H5KY-2p; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:01:24 -0700 Received: by mail-ot1-f49.google.com with SMTP id a20-20020a0568300b9400b0051b8ca82dfcso18543445otv.3; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:01:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=nx1ZngSAjDP/sI4+vCkB2EgmGf2QfLxJ/8oEC19+CYo=; b=YvP04aHHMXp35OiNgOKPGRIPk/TviAvAYNyvSF6A80MX1psP3RR/KDmammfBxIF1dH kS4xQkPsp/VYgFO9j8xreYanD/KhM05u4Q758SkPMjk1qIIOev4Gkz+XXXi3KZzDNqEw gVqPyIDJyT3YAt81Z7gYbCAej/byBDQsT9bbYaNX5e+zYl7R1Ke8OSWvXik/1FeLuqZ3 yZDcxNQZbglXsVnUf+wZPv8GvqQY7vu3R+atlmYeEGjdD1KTHhInGSkLDQVO+YMJj5zY eBXlK4ww6gLwIjlMi6M6tkwGn6zVXKZMn9hFKEkULl6f8Rog+b+yUKB49BWGK3vlLKYY tISw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nx1ZngSAjDP/sI4+vCkB2EgmGf2QfLxJ/8oEC19+CYo=; b=2mZgHE5XeiTaLSTrhRmI6JMMBwtrAY4hkfRhiKOixDb+THTiGYTadjxnHrAw+vYtkE 4nbccQ3D5LGgSe/rKh7A5p0FsfI2tphv+eYKYdBz3uHwtW8Jz4Vck8K92ErdsSqQhGRo s6ITFOKLEyoHEA7hZiZr9eQPQetAUr1i5DUhaVVZKRDctQW26XMEvh4SQu1lMt/8uhXW g9OdeSUbolDA+20hUzBJ4G/i0JLqJGdsh4vxVFJ+OUwGQa/nHcdiDAZ0x1RelwEVpyXq HP1zK5b7R+z9nuAOB+wItkhYQp5pTGGzpBMIOg3EMvtm1BVNtjCekMPla7XQQNOIuJGV lUgA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533vXtZx2Oi70mIQMzw2cwFILY9wWUxR5H6khP449d14w75fBjqE /a/dYFIEx4st2aQEUob2EhRJxXUkoIuZkKOOjQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzk3KEny1Tz52fcP7G+BGN6JjlHstguhfxiLszGSREerIkxe6Xne2IxLzH53HcbOpcpFTwmXMlEJrefHS968Ko= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:78c:: with SMTP id w12mr14359671ots.196.1631628080442; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:01:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210914014449.GE2313647@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Robin Powell Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:01:08 -0700 Message-ID: To: Gleki Arxokuna X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Should I just shut mailman off? (lojban.org infra question) X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Cc: lojban@lojban.org, llg-board@lojban.org, lojban@googlegroups.com, llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3827252411260931009==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============3827252411260931009== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000024153505cbf5049e" --00000000000024153505cbf5049e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, of course. On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 00:17 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > Those mailing lists will still have archives retained at mail.lojban.org > or something, right? > > Em ter., 14 de set. de 2021 =C3=A0s 04:44, Robin Lee Powell < > robinleepowell@gmail.com> escreveu: > >> >> I'm working very hard right now to stop being a bus-factor=3D1 Lojban >> sysadmin (in case that makes no sense: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor#Definition ). I have been >> *very* actively working on updating and containerizing all the >> lojban.org infrastructure, with the end goal of making a series of >> videos that would let anyone with a master password manage any of >> the Lojban infrastructure I run, even in the event of my house >> exploding. >> >> A thing that is taking a surprising amount of effort is mailman, >> which is the mailing list management software I run for y'all. This >> is used for the following lists: >> >> Kabal >> Lojban-fr >> llg-board >> Llg-members >> Lojban-de >> Lojban-es >> Lojban-fr >> >> Note that this does *not* include the two major public lists, >> https://groups.google.com/g/bpfk-list and >> https://groups.google.com/g/lojban >> >> The only ones that have had any significant traffic in a long time >> are llg-board and llg-members. >> >> None have received any traffic of consequence since 2019, and it >> looks like the board and members stuff is now happening on >> mattermost. >> >> It would be *significantly* easier for me to just turn the whole >> thing off, leaving read-only archives. >> >> Having said that, I *do* have new mailman infrastructure working, so >> I could leave it running. >> >> What do people think the right move is here? >> > --00000000000024153505cbf5049e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, of course.=C2=A0

On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 00:17 Gleki Ar= xokuna <gleki.is.my.name@g= mail.com> wrote:
Those mailing lists will still have archives retained at=C2=A0mail.lojba= n.org or something, right?

Em ter., 14 de set. de 2021 =C3=A0s 04:44, Ro= bin Lee Powell <robinleepowell@gmail.com> escreveu:

I'm working very hard right now to stop being a bus-factor=3D1 Lojban sysadmin (in case that makes no sense:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_fact= or#Definition ).=C2=A0 I have been
*very* actively working on updating and containerizing all the
lojban.org infrastructure, with the end goal of making a series of videos that would let anyone with a master password manage any of
the Lojban infrastructure I run, even in the event of my house
exploding.

A thing that is taking a surprising amount of effort is mailman,
which is the mailing list management software I run for y'all.=C2=A0 Th= is
is used for the following lists:

Kabal
Lojban-fr
llg-board
Llg-members
Lojban-de
Lojban-es
Lojban-fr

Note that this does *not* include the two major public lists,
https://groups.google.com/g/bpfk-list and https://groups.google.com/g/lojban

The only ones that have had any significant traffic in a long time
are llg-board and llg-members.

None have received any traffic of consequence since 2019, and it
looks like the board and members stuff is now happening on
mattermost.

It would be *significantly* easier for me to just turn the whole
thing off, leaving read-only archives.

Having said that, I *do* have new mailman infrastructure working, so
I could leave it running.

What do people think the right move is here?
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