From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jul 23 17:59:01 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1DwUpW-0007QD-Vs for llg-members@lojban.org; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:58:59 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:58:58 -0700 To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: Supplicatory Model: papri Message-ID: <20050724005858.GE17178@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: llg-members@lojban.org References: <20050716010140.GU2444@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <42D95380.802@lojban.org> <20050718044439.GE2444@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <42DB5132.1040507@lojban.org> <925d1756050722083624970a05@mail.gmail.com> <007d01c58f19$acc170c0$973e0751@sonyvaio> <1122077937.2288.0.camel@localhost> <20050723002055.GL2444@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <42E19A4B.7010904@lojban.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42E19A4B.7010904@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 38 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 09:15:55PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >>te tcidu? > > > > > >I *really* don't like the agentive nature of "te tcidu"; it means > >that a document isn't unless it's being read. > > No, It isn't a te tcidu unless it *potentially* could be read by > zo'e (assuming that other places apply). Every gismu can refer to > potential states as well as actual ones. I retract my objection, and agree that "te tcidu" best renders "document". -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/