From jjllambias@gmail.com Sun Jul 24 14:28:51 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.192]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Dwo1d-0000Ni-Rz for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:28:49 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so813004wra for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:28:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VhsBdBYcufYAnF3OoyOXB6ayp9MgoZt+5btgSjiaiQBJY8qf7SvYvoJJqGb7TZ991mUSufYa6waDH6VyEDAsDTYioYjz9soqEwcAvpL7AA2/vqkgGm15aZLPKTHlxXlZzb3rnLp6QTMGvoN8epbnus1ekWJsilnR1/I4+5BmKM0= Received: by 10.54.141.18 with SMTP id o18mr1999841wrd; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.68.12 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d175605072414283ba9d1a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 18:28:42 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: Supplicatory Model: papri In-Reply-To: <007d01c58f19$acc170c0$973e0751@sonyvaio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050716010140.GU2444@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <42D95380.802@lojban.org> <20050718044439.GE2444@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <42DB5132.1040507@lojban.org> <925d1756050722083624970a05@mail.gmail.com> <007d01c58f19$acc170c0$973e0751@sonyvaio> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 39 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members On 7/22/05, And Rosta wrote: > My point was that a physical page gives a chunk of text that > is delimited by constraints of the medium rather than of > the textual content. To a large extent the 'nonphysicality' > of the e-medium gets rid of such constraints, so there is > no close analogue of the physical page. But of the analogues > that there are, the least distant is the screenful. I don't know how we could measure that, but in any case that is not the usual analogy in English. In the analogy used in English, you can have more than one page showing in one screenful, and usually only a part of a page shows throw a window. When you reduce the size of the window, you reduce the part of the page that you can see through the window, but the page remains the same. To me, the best analogy is that a page is a container that can be filled with visual content, and in the case of {papri}, they are orgenized as part of a connected whole. A page need not contain just text, it can also contain pictures for example. Or, it could be empty. So many, but not all, webpages are or can be te tcidu. mu'o mi'e xorxes