From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 28 23:26:42 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:26:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ErsBK-0007rh-Rx for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:26:39 -0800 Resent-From: rlpowell@chain.digitalkingdom.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:26:38 -0800 Resent-Message-ID: <20051229072638.GV5289@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Resent-To: llg-members@lojban.org Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:25:57 -0800 To: llg-members@yahoogroups.com Subject: [llg-members] Re: [archivists] batke Message-ID: <20051229072557.GT5289@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: llg-members@yahoogroups.com References: <20050214192717.GP8200@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <421125F9.1000906@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <421125F9.1000906@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Resent-Sender: Robin Lee Powell Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:26:38 -0800 X-archive-position: 150 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@chain.digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 05:28:09PM -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > > Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > >batke seems amazingly under-specified. Is it "button" as in "don't > >push the big red button" or button as in clothing or anything you > >prod to cause an action (i.e. including GUI buttons) or what? > > It is defined by form rather than by function. How can you say that when there's a place for its function?? Besides, the two things I described have rather different forms, unless batke means "round thing"? > Here is the m-w definition of button: > > *1 a* *:* a small knob or disk secured to an article (as of clothing) > and used as a fastener by passing it through a buttonhole > or loop *b* *:* a usually > circular metal or plastic badge bearing a stamped design or printed > slogan > *2* *:* something that resembles a button: as *a* *:* any of various > parts or growths of a plant or of an animal: as (1) *:* an immature > whole mushroom (2) *:* the terminal segment of a rattlesnake's rattle > *b* *:* a small globule of metal remaining after fusion (as in assaying) > *c* *:* a guard on the tip of a fencing foil Note that that doesn't include the other use of botton I gave. > and knob > > *1 a* *:* a rounded protuberance *: LUMP > * *b* *:* a small rounded ornament > or handle Nor does that, again, unless "batke" means "round thing". Or, I suppose, "round thing that is attached to something else". -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/