From lojbab@lojban.org Sat Jul 08 16:19:59 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Sat, 08 Jul 2006 16:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmmtao03.cox.net ([68.230.240.36]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzM5a-0002WK-Ee for llg-members@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 16:19:57 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [24.250.99.39]) by eastrmmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with ESMTP id <20060708231952.YOFS23863.eastrmmtao03.cox.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2006 19:19:52 -0400 Message-ID: <44B03DAC.5050108@lojban.org> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 19:20:12 -0400 From: Bob LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: LLG 2006 Annual Meeting Thread References: <20060707224943.GB18983@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <44AFDF4A.7070009@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: <44AFDF4A.7070009@lojban.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 207 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members I hate to be the only stick-in-the-mud finding things to object to (actually Nora found a couple of these, but I offered to write them up all in one place. > Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >> 6) Removal of old members >> >> Members not participating in any form last year: >> >> Burgess, Gary >> Desquilbet, Jerome >> Hodges, John >> Le Du, Yann >> Lynch, Keith >> Nicholas, Nick >> O'Sullivan, Paul Francis >> Speer, Rob >> Shoulson, Mark >> Vilva, Veijo >> Weeks, Stephen (made a member during the meeting but not present >> for it, due to clerical error on my part) In addition to what I noted in my earlier email, the minutes themselves say: > A list of members who actually participated (commented or voted) is as follows: > > And Rosta > Arnt Richard Johansen > Bob LeChevalier > Charles Hope > Craig Daniel > David Barton > Gregory Dyke > Jay Kominek > John Cowan > Jorge Llambias > Matt Arnold (made member during meeting) > Nora LeChevalier > PaulFrancis O'Sullivan > Pierre Abbat > Robin Lee Powell > Robin Turner > Theodore Reed and this errs as well in missing Paul Francis O'Sullivan's involvement. Nora asks, and I agree with her, that for: > Reading of Minutes > Deferred by providing a link for people to read at their leisure. > > Officer's Reports > Accepted by acclimation. > > Committee Reports > Accepted by acclimation. that if these exist online, there should be links to them incorporated in the minutes. People occasionally refer back to the minutes, and the officer and committee reports are some of the more substantial bits of information that are presented to the annual meeting. Finally, I need to raise a point of order, since this is a formal, legally required, meeting. While I do not necessarily object to Robin chairing the meeting, I would like an explanation on the record for why the President and Vice President of LLG (who per the bylaws have the responsibility and backup responsibility for calling and chairing the annual meeting) are not doing so (and in fact have not even posted publicly to the thread showing their presence). The explanation will affect my vote for officers for the next year (assuming I am on the Board), and should be a consideration in the vote by the members for the composition of the Board: if we are going to effectively vest all of the bylaw offices in Robin Powell, even if he is fully capable of doing them all (3 cheers to Robin for getting the meeting going close-to-on-time BTW), it should be a conscious decision by the membership and the Board to do so and not an unexplained default action. lojbab