From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jul 09 16:06:54 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Sun, 09 Jul 2006 16:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FziMW-0001HO-2N for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 16:06:52 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 16:06:52 -0700 To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: LLG 2006 Annual Meeting Thread Message-ID: <20060709230652.GB3440@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: llg-members@lojban.org References: <20060707224943.GB18983@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <44AFDF4A.7070009@lojban.org> <44B03DAC.5050108@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44B03DAC.5050108@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 211 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 07:20:12PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > I hate to be the only stick-in-the-mud finding things to object to > (actually Nora found a couple of these, but I offered to write > them up all in one place. I am *VERY* appreciative of having my worked checked. I'm notoriously sloppy with tedious activities. > >Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > >>6) Removal of old members > >> > >> Members not participating in any form last year: > >> > >> Burgess, Gary > >> Desquilbet, Jerome > >> Hodges, John > >> Le Du, Yann > >> Lynch, Keith > >> Nicholas, Nick > >> O'Sullivan, Paul Francis > >> Speer, Rob > >> Shoulson, Mark > >> Vilva, Veijo > >> Weeks, Stephen (made a member during the meeting but not present > >> for it, due to clerical error on my part) > > In addition to what I noted in my earlier email, the minutes themselves say: > > >A list of members who actually participated (commented or voted) is as > >follows: > > >And Rosta > >Arnt Richard Johansen > >Bob LeChevalier > >Charles Hope > >Craig Daniel > >David Barton > >Gregory Dyke > >Jay Kominek > >John Cowan > >Jorge Llambias > >Matt Arnold (made member during meeting) > >Nora LeChevalier > >PaulFrancis O'Sullivan > >Pierre Abbat > >Robin Lee Powell > >Robin Turner > >Theodore Reed > > and this errs as well in missing Paul Francis O'Sullivan's involvement. Yes, indeed. > Nora asks, and I agree with her, that for: > >Reading of Minutes > >Deferred by providing a link for people to read at their leisure. > > > >Officer's Reports > >Accepted by acclimation. > > > >Committee Reports > >Accepted by acclimation. > > that if these exist online, there should be links to them incorporated > in the minutes. The officer's and committee reports don't, yet, exist at all. When they exist, I'll try to get them online, yes. > People occasionally refer back to the minutes, and the officer and > committee reports are some of the more substantial bits of > information that are presented to the annual meeting. > > > Finally, I need to raise a point of order, since this is a formal, > legally required, meeting. > > While I do not necessarily object to Robin chairing the meeting, I > would like an explanation on the record for why the President and > Vice President of LLG (who per the bylaws have the responsibility > and backup responsibility for calling and chairing the annual > meeting) are not doing so (and in fact have not even posted > publicly to the thread showing their presence). The president asked me to, due to his unfamiliarity with formal meeting procedures. > The explanation will affect my vote for officers for the next year > (assuming I am on the Board), and should be a consideration in the > vote by the members for the composition of the Board: if we are > going to effectively vest all of the bylaw offices in Robin > Powell, even if he is fully capable of doing them all (3 cheers to > Robin for getting the meeting going close-to-on-time BTW), it > should be a conscious decision by the membership and the Board to > do so and not an unexplained default action. Point. However, please note that Arnt has, in fact, done a fair bit of board stuff this year; in particular, he provides a much better face to the organization in e-mail than I do, and I have regularily leaned on him for that. Arguably that's the secretary's job, but the fact the Secretary and Treasurer are mixed in one job certainly isn't *my* fault, nor is the fact that no-one else is willing to take the Sec/Treas job. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/