From mark@kli.org Mon Aug 07 10:36:17 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 10:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pi.meson.org ([66.134.26.207]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GA91P-0003Bt-Ms for llg-members@lojban.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 10:36:14 -0700 Received: (qmail 16496 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2006 17:36:09 -0000 Received: from nagas.meson.org (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (1000@192.168.1.101) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 7 Aug 2006 17:36:09 -0000 Message-ID: <44D77A08.9080800@kli.org> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:36:08 -0400 From: "Mark E. Shoulson" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: LLG 2006 Annual Meeting Thread References: <20060707224943.GB18983@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20060807041126.GE28190@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <44D6D0E3.30801@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 236 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mark@kli.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members Matt Arnold wrote: > On 8/7/06, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > >> 2. I would also like to discuss whether we are planning to hold a >> LogFest at Philcon this year. I'll ask on a point of information >> whether any contacts of other efforts have been made by others in this >> regard before making any motions myself. Those who were present at the >> end may recall that a discussion between me and the leader of the >> Klingon Language Institute included the possibility of some joint >> programming at Philcon involving both organizations for our mutual >> benefit. >> >> Ideally, we would plan and promote this a little more so we get more >> turnout this year. I'm hoping myself to be there the whole weekend this >> year instead of only one day. > > > Sadly, I can't afford to attend Philcon this year and don't have > reliable transportation. But the Klingon/Lojban joint programming > sounds very promising. I hope to be able to attend if something materializes. The previous LogFest-cum-Philcon, for all its short notice, was an excellent experience. Lawrence Schoen lives in the Philadelphia area and is a Science-Fiction writer, so it is a safe bet that he will at least be at Philcon even if we don't arrange things in advance. I think, though, that Klingon/Lojban joint programming, while possibly a good idea and worth persuing, will not be remarkably enlightening for those already interested in Lojban (or Klingon). It *will* make for some nice headlines and might garner some interest as some sort of "battle" or "debate" (people can't resist imagining a conflict between Klingon and Lojban), and that can only help us, simply by raising our profile and people's awareness of Lojban. My point is, really, that while we should definitely support and work for such a joint program, we should realize that it's mainly for show and we're not going to gain any real insights from it. Then again, what insights could we have hoped to gain anyway? ~mark