From jjllambias@gmail.com Wed Aug 01 11:44:56 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Wed, 01 Aug 2007 11:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.227]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IGJBi-0002Fv-U2 for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 11:44:54 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 36so111266wra for ; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 11:44:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nW5gFGap38USX2VL1igDieol2iKGm9SQ3ah41U6tbHM7CcrDt3O87kdhX6tzFEt9VOh+2shOBh46zwyEfxncPq9qE46shKbzq1eTChUDHrOcDmthSGsQ5dFcjO6mlPhHbiCWi0XmeFXTXRqRhz0YT5JSrA5A+hcRYucHKnzW02o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OOkqKAFDUCSAsjiRdnKHnJ1baEzcXwTbLD9fyFsG26uvVOYXb7IymUV16vc7XSmD5E4X4fIdo2afjjcdYxYaI0pTXSDYgDxxSWVbELe14uP5xwYfChZ2QbLxTHCU5CEHYQS/dg1Us8POUWaI2AJuuqacaqEX2clPDJolXabsTdU= Received: by 10.100.132.16 with SMTP id f16mr616229and.1185993888509; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 11:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.42.17 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560708011144t1ee66f4am1cd509a4babd605b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:44:48 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: Create Lojban geocaching coins? In-Reply-To: <46B0C30A.2030800@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <46AFD145.7020902@lojban.org> <200708011115.54956.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560708010849h4d95c8f4x7a0fd1a6a0601ba8@mail.gmail.com> <46B0C30A.2030800@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 311 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members On 8/1/07, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > > I'm not sure whether this is necessary, or whether it is malglico > colloquialism leaking across that we ought to be fighting. Of course it > is "bad English" to start a sentence with "and", but we do it anyway. > And we continue the sentences of others using "and". This is not really a case of starting a sentence with "and", which is legal in Lojban with {.ije} anyway, but about connecting a sumti with another one left implicit. You could say {zo'e .e lo botpi be lo jikru} as a fragment, but you can't omit zo'e in this case. > One would have to decide exactly what the "yo ho ho" is expressing, and > I suspect one could easily come up with an existing combination of > emotive attitudinals that would express it. "Interjection used as an exclamation to express excitement or delight" would seem to fit, so perhaps {ui oinai}. mu'o mi'e xorxes