From cowan@ccil.org Wed Aug 01 18:10:53 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.ccil.org ([192.190.237.11]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IGPDE-00036U-12 for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:10:51 -0700 Received: from cowan by earth.ccil.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IGPDC-0003h1-VY for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:10:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 21:10:46 -0400 To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: Create Lojban geocaching coins? Message-ID: <20070802011046.GB26836@mercury.ccil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: John Cowan X-Spam-Score: 1.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 12 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 315 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cowan@ccil.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members Scripsi: > Pierre Abbat scripsit: > > > There's a song that begins "And can it be"; I've often wondered why. > > I think the initial "And" gives an impression of continuing an > existing conversation. Of course it may just be to get the meter right. The OED gives as sense 12 of _and_: 12. In expressing surprise at, or asking the truth of, what one has already heard. a1788 W. J. MICKLE Nae Luck aboot the House, And are ye sure the news is true? And are ye sure he's weel? c1800 Jolly young Waterman, And have you not heard of that jolly young waterman, That at Blackfriars' Bridge used for to ply? 1844 DISRAELI Coningsby III. iii. 96 "And you walked here!" said Lady Everingham. a1884 Mod. O John! and you have seen him! And are you really going? -- Babies are born as a result of the John Cowan mating between men and women, and most http://www.ccil.org/~cowan men and women enjoy mating. cowan@ccil.org --Isaac Asimov in Earth: Our Crowded Spaceship