From matt.mattarn@gmail.com Sun Oct 07 09:49:36 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IeZJs-0002mS-KN for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:49:35 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so502238rvf for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:49:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qI8kxSWCP57EtVj7J0p7ZivEdGu8rith2Yib8g2l8aw=; b=Gjs08BsbKhIkH+uQb6sQUl/jKrdcZI0k4wUeh/wKMtL2Z7LKZd6JCWGKSCOS8x/CGaVBkpdyLyKHVCh2uBUzXLtMWOXy2zkHV9ZEbsXU7LikGddzaCUguHLtXVlNJLF5uMArg9QEANcifGdZz1lIFvWKvKiAXA4LljWoeMQvSUY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nvbaR/DhfAw/7tYT+kYaiM/RTs/vcwUzI0Zly+3UxbfQmbekS7rOASsILvwMTg67A6CnGMZ4rKly0UxaxYEUXMfGVxh+L+m15VCFn7FGvKzcMY/riejMcgEbsh5jlRkFF5oBACWd/1Rp3csd+1iSBWKkVMXv+Mt2T5GCIjjvSIw= Received: by 10.114.109.1 with SMTP id h1mr1664258wac.1191775771251; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.16.20 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:49:31 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: LLG AGM 2007: Removal Of Old Members In-Reply-To: <47085892.4020008@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070918181955.GW10667@nvg.org> <20071007030716.GH20839@digitalkingdom.org> <20071007031703.GC16577@mercury.ccil.org> <47085892.4020008@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 338 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members On 10/6/07, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > John Cowan wrote: > > Robin Lee Powell scripsit: > > > >>On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:19:55PM +0200, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > >> > >>>7. Removal of Old Members > >> > >>If you would like to step down, or you feel someone else has not > >>done their duty as an LLG member, speak up now. > > > > > > I'm removing myself, unless someone wants to talk me out of it. > > I certainly want to talk you out of it (therefore it logically follows > that you are not removing yourself %^) > > But if you want some reasons to not repeat your statement without the > condition. > > 1. You are obviously paying attention to the member's list, demonstrated > by noticing the meeting has started and posting immediately, thus > fulfilling your responsibility. > > 2. Your historical participation ranks about as high as anyone's, and > demonstrates long term commitment to the goals set forth in the bylaws. > > 3. You were actively present at the last LogFest, showing interest in > the community within the last year. > > 4. You've participated in byfy discussions at least as recently as June, > which makes you more active than 3/4 of byfy members. > > 5. Even if you were to become totally inactive except for the meeting, > by remaining a member people will still consider you a resource that can > be called upon for advise and expertise, and in some areas (such as > interpretation of CLL) you are the sole person qualified. > > 6. Even if you were to become totally inactive except for the meeting > (thereby matching a good chunk of the membership), your continued > nominal participation is at least as valuable to the project as mine is, > since you are the author of CLL, past director and president, > grammarian, etc. Founders and other key people leaving an artificial > language project short of death or retirement will tend to be seen by > history as an abandonment or renunciation, which might be interpreted > negatively. > > I could probably provide a few more reasons, but I think that is already > about as many reasons as could be offered for most of the membership. > > lojbab > Lojbab beat me to it. I will only add one point. 7. Eppcott will cry. -Eppcott