From matt.mattarn@gmail.com Tue Oct 16 07:03:45 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.227]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ihn12-0004ZT-MD for llg-members@lojban.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:03:40 -0700 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1224736nze for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:03:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GO5HY/EBtBd05Y3LVOvgzeO4Cl4/5naGAr9HgmhyqFw=; b=sMQHd3JCwS6Wmxw6+aLnCKIJPoVjrr1z4YPO4GuPxoU0gipVx7j3gyRDJn9RAWYgucOnd2qnK3KjQol5sTkAMhqtmUPes2c74uufEuUZUkiQYSGseMJREgt/OTB+WSoYRdcMtmbLwD3ev33yg34HTyf0EvZCeCIJYJwzR/pAtyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iw68/NOaTPrXYSmhRCusH5W9kaRDyqCdVytXg6HKoYrbcwvc85E5Z2siUd3hNZxxPQt5x+2SHkNLRP30Z4xGjrc1S+IxfzO827m6E9vNFdx/+9v8oVt+cfnDy7RTBSabkIYNUD2heCuitSlPn7R82aZ72B6bmBI640C3fqkpVzI= Received: by 10.115.47.1 with SMTP id z1mr8450013waj.1192543394919; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.16.20 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:03:14 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: LLG AGM 2007: The Most Common Word In The Language In-Reply-To: <20071016130859.GX1196@nvg.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071016130859.GX1196@nvg.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 416 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members On 10/16/07, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 08:49:18AM -0400, Matt Arnold wrote: > > > You have heard the argument that the BPFK needs to consider every > > change all at once, as a group, so that they can say "you can have > > your way in this part of the language if I can have my way in that > > part of the language". > > Where did you get the idea that the BPFK works like that? From Lojbab's passage to which I was directly responding. I may have misinterpreted it. I will paste it below - Eppcott On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 05:24:16PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > 3) It is the pressure to get that consensus agreement, and the tradeoffs > that people need to make to reach that point, that make consensus > building possible. By removing issues from the table by membership fiat, > consensus building becomes harder.