From lojbab@lojban.org Wed Oct 24 22:53:46 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmmtao106.cox.net ([68.230.240.48]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ikvf6-00035k-Co for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:53:45 -0700 Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20071025055339.VSRE1395.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:53:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([72.192.234.183]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id 4VtX1Y00H3y5FKc0000000; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:53:33 -0400 Message-ID: <47202F4E.3020302@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:53:18 -0400 From: Bob LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: Official: voting on temporary baseline proposal References: <20070918181955.GW10667@nvg.org> <20071010000942.GZ10376@digitalkingdom.org> <20071011190654.GO13890@digitalkingdom.org> <20071018203153.GB1196@nvg.org> <20071020173535.GD1196@nvg.org> <20071022191655.GB2583@nvg.org> In-Reply-To: <20071022191655.GB2583@nvg.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 483 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > There has been no further discussion since Saturday. We now vote on the following proposal. > > Please cast your vote (yes/no/abstain) by e-mail to this list (llg-members@lojban.org) no later than 48 hours from now. That is, you must vote by Wed Oct 24 20:00:00 UTC 2007. > > >>1) The following procedures are added to the extant BPFK >> procedures: >> >> "Any proposal which at least half of the BPFK membership has voted >> on in a tentative vote with none voting against, may be submitted >> by the BPFKJ to the general membership as a possible piece of the >> zasni gafyfantytei ("interim baseline", herein after referred to as >> the ZG). Such a proposal requires a two-thirds majority of those >> voting to vote in favor of it at the general membership meeting in >> order to pass. >> >> Voting something into the ZG has the following effects: >> >> 1. The proposal will be considered correct Lojban until such a time >> the complete new baseline is established and approved by the >> membership. Usage according to the CLL standard will not be >> considered incorrect, but usage according to the ZG will be >> preferred. >> >> 2. The BPFK will recognize that such a vote indicates a desire by >> the membership for the proposal in question to be included, in >> modified form if necessary, when the new baseline is finished. Such >> a desire will not be considered binding in any way. >> >> 3. The membership is encouraged to use the ZG standard in all >> pedagogical contexts, and in all Lojban conversation. >> >> The ZG will last only until the entire new baseline is written by >> the BPFK and approved by the membership." >> >>Proposed by: Craig Daniel >>Seconded by: Pierre Abbat I will vote no on this motion, for reasons that I have stated, but with the statement that if (as it seems to be so far) it is the will of the community, then I can and will live with it. lojbab