From arj@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 12:39:32 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no ([129.241.210.67]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KvdMd-00081T-AH for llg-members@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:39:32 -0700 Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D38294786 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:39:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m9UJdClP014161 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:39:12 +0100 Received: (from arj@localhost) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id m9UJdAM2014160 for llg-members@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:39:10 +0100 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:39:09 +0100 From: Arnt Richard Johansen To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: LLG AGM 2008: New business: membership alert proposal Message-ID: <20081030193909.GG2447@nvg.org> References: <20081008210111.GX2447@nvg.org> <20081029183251.GW2447@nvg.org> <4908B49F.4080009@lojban.org> <20081029230222.GB1092@digitalkingdom.org> <4908F37A.2040504@lojban.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4908F37A.2040504@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.ntnu.no X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 623 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arj@nvg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 07:36:26PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >>>To avoid confusion, I would like to repeat Robin's statement from > >>>last year: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Please recall that the LLG is a business organization, and is > >>>>only tangentially in the business of running the Lojban > >>>>language. The BPFK is in charge of the actual Lojban parts, and > >>>>you need not be a member of the LLG to contribute to the BPFK. > >> > >> > >>If it is in order, I move that it be the normal practice NOT to > >>propose or accept for membership any person who has not been > >>asked *in advance of the meeting*, with the exception of someone > >>who is actively participating in some organizational capacity of > >>LLG (organizational being defined in contrast to the "actual > >>language parts" as per the statement above). I would like a > >>statement to this effect added to the agenda/announcement > >>corresponding to Arnt's message above in all future years. > > > > > >That's definately new business; I've renamed the subject. > > > >Can you be a lot more specific about what you're asking the > >organization to do? I'm not following. > > I liked your statement as quoted above, and would like the text modified > to include the proposed policy and included in future agenda posting as > Arnt included your statement. > > Arnt set a quasi-sufficient example of having asked someone in advance > of the meeting whether they want to be a member. I would suggest, but > not insist, that such an asked-in-advance potential member be added to > the members list before the start of the meeting, so that they can a) > show interest, and b) truly be able to act as a member immediately upon > election. Other than an agenda statement and adding proposed members > before the meeting, I don't see anything that has to be done. Correct me if I'm wrong: You're moving that: * A statement like the above, plus the requirement that people be asked in advance, should hereafter be posted in every AGM agenda * Proposed members should be added to the llg-members mailing list prior to the meeting on which they are proposed as members -- Arnt Richard Johansen Vice President, LLG