From lojbab@lojban.org Thu Oct 30 13:17:43 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmmtao106.cox.net ([68.230.240.48]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kvdxb-0002fg-R8 for llg-members@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:17:43 -0700 Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20081030201718.BXCC4226.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:17:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([70.187.235.94]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id Z8HH1a00A22sj6m028HJA3; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:17:18 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=v9duIr34yRwA:10 a=pLsZmdU2mTEA:10 a=FelrR0sDMUbeHdBKIysA:9 a=8LOP7PRV8BgzWHYAbwgA:7 a=JZwKAxD0Yf1xQM7A2yfvaGyhEHsA:4 a=vNGxQsTWjH8A:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <490A164D.9020907@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:17:17 -0400 From: Bob LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: LLG AGM 2008: Old Business References: <20081008210111.GX2447@nvg.org> <20081029184223.GZ2447@nvg.org> <49099C8B.6030004@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 625 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members Matt Arnold wrote: > I forget why it is that Lojbab can't sell them on Amazon. Can someone > remind me? If only I had more than one copy, I could do it. I used to, but their procedures changed so as to make it prohibitively expensive (giving them 55%, we pay shipping to them, and they can return remainders at our cost). It has since changed further, but I stopped following the options. Someone would have to research it. I suspect that a seller would have to be MUCH more responsive to orders than I have been. And mentioned taking over for Colin Fine for UK sales, but what is forgotten is that Colin actually BOUGHT a full box of books (saving considerable money by my shipping the entire box in one non-air-mail shipment), and he was able to sell them at cost for less than people would have had to pay us to ship copies to them. I don't know how the economics would work these days - but shipping to the UK has gotten much more expensive because surface mail shipping was eliminated. LLG could more easily afford to front the cost of shipping books to intermediary sellers than it used to, but would be taking all the risk upon itself unless the sellers fronted some of the costs, and I'm sure amazon still gets a nice cut, though I am not sure how much. But in any event, we would no longer make nearly as much money on such sales as we used to, unless perhaps the amazon sellers charged the cover price of $49 (still a substantial savings over $200, though, and some number of the copies are autographed by John associated with some LogFest that he signed them at, which might motivate the buyers - though we'll send such copies at no extra charge if requested already. lojbab