From cowan@ccil.org Fri Nov 07 12:42:37 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:42:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from earth.ccil.org ([192.190.237.11]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KyYA5-0004Wy-Df for llg-members@lojban.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:42:37 -0800 Received: from cowan by earth.ccil.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KyYA4-000693-FM for llg-members@lojban.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:42:32 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:42:32 -0500 To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: LLG AGM 2008: PLEASE VOTE: Removal of Old Members Message-ID: <20081107204232.GA13463@mercury.ccil.org> References: <20081008210111.GX2447@nvg.org> <20081029183722.GX2447@nvg.org> <20081104185241.GS2447@nvg.org> <20081107202640.GD2447@nvg.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081107202640.GD2447@nvg.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: John Cowan X-Spam-Score: -0.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: -1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 664 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cowan@ccil.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members Arnt Richard Johansen scripsit: > Now on to the controversial part. Robin proposed that the following > members, who did not participate either last year or this year, should > be removed: > > * Hodges, John B. > * Le Du, Yann > * Nicholas, Nick > * O'Sullivan, Paul Francis > * Turner, Robin > > Please vote by replying to this message on-list. I vote yes with the following explanation: Adding members is an incredibly lightweight process, whereas removing them is not. So when people are non-participating two years running, we should go ahead and remove them. Anyone who wants to be added back, can be added back at the next annual meeting with immediate effect. What is more, things that can be done only by a given fraction of the membership (as opposed to a given fraction of the legal votes cast) are much harder to do when there is a dead weight of non-participating members. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org http://ccil.org/~cowan In computer science, we stand on each other's feet. --Brian K. Reid