From arj@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Nov 16 07:10:22 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:10:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no ([129.241.210.67]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L1jGU-0006Dv-Hk for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:10:22 -0800 Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (unknown [IPv6:2001:700:300:2000:2a0:c9ff:feab:76e2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCAF94787 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:09:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id mAGF9re3020509 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:09:53 +0100 Received: (from arj@localhost) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id mAGF9rtS020508 for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:09:53 +0100 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:09:53 +0100 From: Arnt Richard Johansen To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: LLG AGM 2008: New Business - Purchase refrigerator magnets and dice for resale Message-ID: <20081116150953.GG9898@nvg.org> References: <20081008210111.GX2447@nvg.org> <20081029184442.GA2447@nvg.org> <20081109132404.GF2447@nvg.org> <49172038.8090209@lojban.org> <20081116072921.GA9898@nvg.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.ntnu.no X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 689 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arj@nvg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 09:32:38AM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:29 AM, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 06:33:10PM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: > >> Jen bought a robotic embroidery machine and can manufacture clothing > >> with the Lojban emblem that I designed. She's putting it on my fleece > >> jacket for starters. Because this is on-demand, there is no need for > >> outlay of cash by the LLG -- therefore, all the investment and all the > >> profit would go to me and Jen. Can individuals in the Lojban community > >> offer Lojban products for sale on a catalog page of Lojban.org? I > >> don't actually need a motion on this part so much as the sense of the > >> community. > > > > Well, it does seem that everyone who has weighed this far are in are in favour. > > > > Can I interpret this as you wanting to withdraw the motion? > > I don't see where that interpretation would come from. I was talking > about additional products, not alternative ones. Was it a motion? I'm > not sure it has relevance as a "motion" at the level of the whole LLG, > I just wanted to see if anybody had a problem with it or were excited > about it. I'll leave it up to you to "move" or not "move". Now I see that you were talking about embroidery above, not fridge magnets and dice. My mistake. It seems that the membership is in agreement that fridge magnets and dice would be a good thing, but some are reluctant to commit to a specific course of action. In particular, Robin asked for a clarification regarding the price level. Can you please respond to this? (Parliamentary note: a presiding officer cannot propose motions by themselves; they can only "state" the motion (ie. help the proposer with giving it a clear wording).) -- Arnt Richard Johansen Vice President, LLG