From phma@phma.optus.nu Mon Aug 17 00:09:58 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsl081-066-183.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.66.183] helo=pinfu.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mcw5c-0004cv-Bj for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:53:11 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.122]) by pinfu.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1McuQT-0007Mi-Px for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:06:33 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090817011517815.UQMP16591@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:15:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D874B3AE0 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:15:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: [cr@cosmicray.co.uk: [Fwd: Lojban Ideas]] Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:15:09 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <20090816032146.GC21886@mercury.ccil.org> <200908160853.09794.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4A8839AD.907@cosmicray.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A8839AD.907@cosmicray.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908162115.11962.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-archive-position: 730 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members On Sunday 16 August 2009 12:54:05 CosmicRay wrote: > I think I understand that, congratulations. I think it's the best > of the natural languages too; a feature it shares with Lojban is you can > see any word and know how it's pronounced and vice-versa. It's be good > if there were more opportunities to use it daily (not so easy in the UK > where learning other languages is almost seen as redundant), whereas > with Lojban I've recruited five colleagues to learn it with me > surprisingly easily. Not completely. Some examples: "enzima" means "enzyme"; "encima" means "on top". Both are pronounced the same. All interrogative pronouns have an interrogative form with an accent and a relative form without one. They are pronounced the same. "plátanoespéra" can be lexed in four ways, all grammatically valid. Pierre