From mark@kli.org Mon Aug 17 07:13:12 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pi.meson.org ([66.134.26.207]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Md2xL-0000WF-J5 for llg-members@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:13:12 -0700 Received: (qmail 11525 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2009 10:12:56 -0400 Received: from nagas.meson.org (192.168.1.101) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 17 Aug 2009 10:12:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4A896567.6040106@kli.org> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:12:55 -0400 From: "Mark E. Shoulson" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090320) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: [cr@cosmicray.co.uk: [Fwd: Lojban Ideas]] References: <20090816032146.GC21886@mercury.ccil.org> In-Reply-To: <20090816032146.GC21886@mercury.ccil.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 731 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mark@kli.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members From: CosmicRay > 3. Exams and qualifications > I can say from experience with the KLI's certification that this is a Good Idea, and we should have moved on it earlier. Many people definitely feel motivated by the prospect of earning the rank and those little pins (we should also have some sort of badge; it really gives people something to strive for). Arika wrote about that some in her book. (and generally, we should have some sort of Lojban or LLG badge. I have a bunch of little 1-inch buttons I made on cafepress with the Lojban emblem on them, which are okay, but something enamel would be cooler. It can also elicit questions from nosy people peering at your jacket) It might be worthwhile to contact d'Armond Speers about his Klingon certification tests; he really worked at making them standard and regularized, and also having multiple versions per level, so you aren't necessarily taking the same test each time when you fail. > I propose a project to design one or more levels of qualification > with exams split into a few parts that can be conducted remotely such as: > > * Basic comprehension through timed multiple-choice exams, can be > completely automated via web > * Listening and written comprehension exams, with work submitted to a > human examiner via web > * Spoken exams, with a human examiner, via Skype > KLI exams are only given in person, I guess for additional security in proctoring or something. > Qualifications can be graded in much the same way as those for any > other language, with the highest levels of candidate being awarded > diplomas and lettering. Exams must be paid for by the student or an > accredited body, adding credence and authority to the exam being sat, > and adding to the LLG's funds. > I'm tellin' ya, cheesy metal trinkets. ~mark