From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 01 21:30:44 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MihUZ-0002oW-TA for llg-members@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:30:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 21:30:43 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: Motion: Lojban Certification Program Message-ID: <20090902043043.GN32444@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: llg-members@lojban.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-archive-position: 798 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 04:14:23PM -0400, Matt Arnold wrote: > > Lojban Certification Program > > The LLG will inform the Lojban community of a Lojban skills evaluation > program, initially for English speakers, and that anyone may submit a > Lojban utterance and its English translation to be a test question. (I'm way behind on the thread here, so my apologies if this is no longer relevant.) Matt: You have a tendency to freak out at me when I say anything even mildly critical of anything you have anything to do with through any online forum of any kind. Please try to remember me as you know me in person, and imagine me sitting in a room with you saying this, in my usual mild-mannered and friendly fashion: I appreciate and respect and am happy that people want to put a bunch of work into advancing the language, but This Is Not The Way. We need to finish the BPFK. We really really really need to finish the BPFK. Until then, we don't even know what the language *is*; how can we certify people to it? I'm over-simplifying that last bit, I know, but not by much. Please, if you want to help, help with *that* instead. -Robin -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/