From cr@cosmicray.co.uk Thu Nov 05 13:21:52 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N69m6-0004me-Ei for llg-members@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:21:52 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (82-71-48-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.48.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LoMUn-1MUe6K3qK9-00g6qu; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:21:38 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF341E0.2080503@cosmicray.co.uk> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:21:36 +0000 From: CosmicRay User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] Re: LLG Associated Site Charter and Seal References: <4AEF6C20.8000200@cosmicray.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AEF6C20.8000200@cosmicray.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/gyGDgu4kRdamTgQvvXTRwdwMFBlZMeESzPq5 S7Zzh88pOOoi0i21XKZaN9HfbdtDNrGUi7CVgcJzQxXbqGbEHQ YQgq8UxnOcSiFVenKKjxg== X-archive-position: 828 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cr@cosmicray.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members I've added a Spanish seal for sites in Spanish about Lojban (see it using the demo login for the admin system and select "spa" for a seal's language). Would someone kindly send me the Lojban translations of the following text strings for sites in Lojban or that may prefer a Lojban seal? Translations to other languages also very welcome. * "Associated Site" * "Associated Status granted to" (site name and domain follow) * "*NUM*% of this site's profits are donated to the LLG" (*NUM* is an integer from 1 to 100, or string isn't used if zero) * "LLG Associated Site Inspectorate" * "Under Inspection" (re the site it's on) * "Retracted" (re the seal, from the site it's on) Regards, kozmikreis CosmicRay wrote: > Dear LLG Members, > > Some time before I went abroad I mentioned a few ideas to promote > Lojban, including a charter for regional websites/groups: > > > I'd like to set up lojban.org.uk as a UK-centric hub of Lojban > > activity, and was thinking how it would be good to have a charter issed > > by the LLG for it. The charter could be optional for any pro-Lojban > > site to adopt, and can include principles that cover the quality of site > > and content, freshness of the Lojban published on it as the language > > evolves, and agreement to donate a percentage of any operating profit to > > the LLG. In return for adopting the charter, a site gets an official > > LLG seal to display and show its affiliation status, and can call on > > LLG-certified experts on various matters (within a predefined service > > level agreement of sorts). > > > > I believe having a charter and encouraging localised groups to form > > and adopt it, both in location and native language, will be like > > franchising Lojban and giving it wider exposure than the one official > > plus random scattering of fan-looking sites there currently is can > > manage. It will also ensure that more Lojban domain names are snapped > > up and used well (without hitting LLG funds, quite the opposite), rather > > than taken over by cybersquatters or other people with bad deeds in mind. > > > > Benefits: > > > > * The LLG can ensure that 3rd party sites adhere to codes of quality and > > freshness in the Lojban they expound > > * Lojban gets much wider exposure and acceptance as an international > > language > > * Regional activities and events will be easier to organise and attend > > * Raises money for the LLG > > With this in mind I've created a draft seal design and an > administration system for creating and modifying seals, see > http://lojban.co.uk/ for an example seal in situ, and log into > http://lojban.co.uk/admin/ (username and password both "demo") to change > the seal around in various ways. Feel free to explore creating and > modifying the seals, and click on the thumbnails to see them larger. > > The seal generation system can create and cache various size images > on-the-fly, can accomodate JPEG with a solid background colour of choice > or transparent PNG output, and soon text in languages other than English > only. > > For a 1st draft charter, please let me know your thoughts on this: > > ----- start of charter ----- > Logical Language Group Associated Site Charter > > > > 1. Associated Site Duties > > These are the duties an Associated Site must adhere to, on an ongoing > basis, for the LLG Associated Site Charter and accompanying Seal to be > extended to it. Neglecting these duties may mean that LLG Associated > Site status is retracted. > > 1a. The duty to maintain the quality and freshness of the Lojban > language presented on the site, and ensure it is compliant with the most > recent version or amendments. > > 1b. The duty to present the Lojban language, the LLG, and the Lojban > community at large in an accurate and balanced way. > > 1c. The duty to maintain a high quality website design and content, and > follow established web standards. > > 1d. The duty to allow and enable the LLG Associated Site Inspectorate to > inspect the site, including any member-only or hidden portions, without > incurring cost to the LLG Site Inspectorate, for the purpose of > determining that these duties are carried out. > > 1e. The duty to ensure that the LLG Associated Site seal, if displayed, > must not under any circumstance: be an innaccurate Seal (from another > domain, for example); be tampered with (overlaid, modified, or replaced > with other links or images, for example); carry advertisements near the > Seal; be called into disrepute (shown on irrelevant, offensive, or > immoral sites, for example); nor be hosted from a location that is not a > recognised LLG Associated Site Inspectorate domain (lojban.org) or > subdomain (charter.lojban.org) (a locally hosted copy, for example). > > 1f. The option to donate a percentage of any Lojban-related profits to > the LLG for the aims specified at http://lojban.org/tiki/Donations (The > Logical Language Group, Inc. is a tax-exempt 501(c)(3) > scientific-educational organization, and donations may be tax deductible > within the U.S.) > > 1g. The duty to inform the LLG Associated Site Inspectorate in a timely > manner if any of the above duties have not been adhered to and why, and > remedial action undertaken. > > > > 2. Associated Site Rights > > When a site complies with all of the above duties and successfully > demonstrates to the LLG Associated Site Inspectorate that it is willing > to continue to do so, the site may have the following rights extended to > it by the LLG Associated Site Inspectorate. > > 2a. The right to display a Logical Language Group Associated Site Seal. > The Seal will include the details of: > > * The LLG Associated Site status > * The domain name that has been certified to carry the Seal > * The percentage of profits that are pledged to the LLG > * When the Associated Site was last checked by the LLG Associated Site > Inspectorate > > The HTML for the Seal will be provided by the LLG Associated Site > Inspectorate and must not be modified without prior approval from the > LLG Associated Site Inspectorate. Typically the HTML will be similar to > this sample, where DOMAIN is a unique site domain or subdomain: > > href="http://lojban.org/tiki/LLG+Associated+Site+Charter?domain=DOMAIN" > target="_blank"> > height="200" alt="Logical Language Group Associated Site Seal" border="0" /> > > > The Seal image must only be hosted at charter.lojban.org, local copies > are not permitted. The link included in the Seal HTML is to this > Charter and a full certificate of a site's Associated Site status. > > The Seal image and its derivatives remain the exclusive right of the LLG > Associated Site Inspectorate to issue. > > 2b. The right to request help and information from the LLG with regards > to the Lojban language and with regards to this charter. > > 2c. The right to organise activities and events under the LLG Associated > Site banner in order to promote the Lojban language and community at large. > > 2d. The right to create and host Lojban language educational and > entertainment materials under the LLG Associated Site banner. > > 2e. The right to create and host Lojban translations to and from other > languages under the LLG Associated Site banner, where this right does > not contravene copyright or other laws. > > 2f. The right to be listed in the LLG Associated Site directory at > http://lojban.org/tiki/LLG+Associated+Sites > > > > 3. LLG Associated Site Inspectorate > > The LLG Associated Site Inspectorate is typically a subset of LLG > Members. The Associated Site Inspectorate currently consists of: > > * (Lojban quality) > * (Lojban quality, site quality) > * (Site quality) > * (Administration) > > 3a. The LLG Associated Site Inspectorate will endeavour to inspect new > sites brought to its attention within > > > > 4. Legalities > > 4a. LLG Associated Sites are independent entities from The Logical > Language Group, Inc. > > 4b. The Logical Language Group, Inc. is not responsible for the content > of third party sites, including LLG Associated Sites. > ----- end of charter ----- > > For another of the ideas I proposed, the iPhone app, I've recently > discovered a jQuery plugin that allows websites to be crafted as iPhone > applications at no cost except effort and with no ties to Apple's iTunes > Store: http://www.jqtouch.com/ > > I'd like to create a flash card application that uses > collaboratively sourced definitions, to reshare with other Lojban learners. > > With regard to the Lojban Certification Program (lojbo bangu cipra > kamni, or LBCK), when is a status report expected? I'd like to be party > to discussions, but in an observervational non-exec role :-) > > Regards, > > kozmikreis > > > >