From 34h-8SwAAFAovytlkx-kxxy4xmowox32qyyqvoq1y4z2.myw@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Apr 06 23:02:19 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <34h-8SwAAFAovytlkx-kxxy4xmowox32qyyqvoq1y4z2.myw@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NzOLA-0004BS-Cu; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:02:19 -0700 Received: by pwi3 with SMTP id 3sf198419pwi.16 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:02:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:received:received:received :date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url :x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bq96xTvfF0ZM2kfxbVMBcwehE7zR0d3YbUki85LIwbA=; b=zrSBbUsiRf7upziZ2cOFgx4/YLVZ38Zxgi36i8I3R0IaX3ZeDwPAFdO5YQXo+ZKVxw Q3PwLGfnLdOFiVtKLsRg8+Vwry4+GsX5gMledMmZvYquRu0R2Aty9croLXY8SIqC2Z5G XykIMlbhvjfD7KhIBYlwDORND7xbIgrqLEr/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mime-version:user-agent:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; b=dmBjfZ12IWXkPmswEF+TNSSUmt01pUsT3RNnSTB5XjZ2StaJdugYEF8SAqyDMW5XoV KzpWW9Tj+5/eeV4Yfu5th07YeyTg9RUR7APIGeJWAwxg4uuo0CHa6wtlZwdR7Gpujhws 7+fFaL86ao9JL0HnP1JOXjl9ps4GaFd7M1ITw= Received: by 10.140.82.25 with SMTP id f25mr503632rvb.23.1270620130259; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:02:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-announcements@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.141.188.22 with SMTP id q22ls2330129rvp.1.p; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.91.10 with SMTP id t10mr1299579rvl.13.1270620129313; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.83.9 with SMTP id g9mr1298473rvb.5.1270618469991; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.83.9 with SMTP id g9mr1298472rvb.5.1270618469968; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si3004339pzk.6.2010.04.06.22.34.29; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.6 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=69.17.117.6; Received: (qmail 19980 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2010 05:34:29 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 7 Apr 2010 05:34:29 -0000 Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NzNuG-0002nb-Qu for lojban-announcements@googlegroups.com; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:34:28 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NzNuG-0002nQ-BB for lojban-announce@lojban.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:34:28 -0700 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:34:28 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-announce@lojban.org Subject: [llg-members] [lojban-announcements] Request For Help; non-urgent research request to help Lojban. Message-ID: <20100407053428.GA9239@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.6 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=nobody@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-announcements@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-announcements+owners@googlegroups.com X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-announcements/t/eb8a3ed85a2128d0 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-announcements/msg/7e26818c750e2b57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 839 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members I am feeling hopeful just now that we'll actually get around to publishing a dictionary in my lifetime :) , so I'd like to ask for someone else to do a project I've been thinking about for ages, to help with the dictionary. Research needed: peruse other languages' official test documents (the Japanese JLPT is a good example here) or similar official or semi-official word lists, and come up with a list, in something like importance order, of words that a language "should" have. Perhaps this has already been done; if so, I couldn't find it, but that would be fantastic. The goal is to get a list of 5 or 10 thousand words that we can use to guide dictionary development; a set of words to form a core "if you know this you can have a normal conversation" set for learning. We won't likely make direct use of it this year, but we *will* make use of it, and when we need it, we'll need it very much. -Robin -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" 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