From cr@cosmicray.co.uk Sun Aug 22 04:45:32 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-members); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1On8zQ-00048O-Pu for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:45:32 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (82-71-48-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.48.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MOmdm-1OkPQa0MeE-005bi4; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:45:22 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: [llg-members] Re: 2010 Annual Meeting - Reports From: CosmicRay In-Reply-To: <4C704F51.5000104@lojban.org> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:45:21 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Message-Id: <265CAD2D-DD41-4FEE-BE25-7E43C2F8AA3E@cosmicray.co.uk> References: <4C701E9E.1040101@lojban.org> <4C704F51.5000104@lojban.org> To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:Udg6qpb51JlyH2j/Fpz0myhDTtASCgTg7geYwnOjzUa 8yE2BpRDkIgJFqVVPB30t4IQ4TS7O57OYAxobLPkVSChQatUDj rT/6HqyvTmRCSZsEcCw6XyAyrs56zeHzidoc4U0kAVcnbt4BFI AbDPnh8qUNMgpXJ1rCYmZRAFuqGMjgN73qGNwLWhP6jGM2xltm rPATP7PoJwWM5C94BRFgQE00Ys/VifIt1CrmROcm14 I'd like to report on the informal Lojban Kids' Show project that Lindar Greenwood thought up and has been driving. As far as I know, it could be the most child-friendly learning material we have as a community, though the size and scope of the project is daunting. We may need volunteer syllabus creators/reviewers, tween animators, translators, voice actors, cartographers, fashion designers, architects, folklore enthusiasts and probably more besides. The work on the Lobgugde scenario is intended to be a standalone body of fictional material that other projects can draw on and embellish. X-archive-position: 909 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-members-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cr@cosmicray.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-members@lojban.org X-list: llg-members In brief the show is intended to be a little bit like the popular Dora the Explorer, and will be an animated series that teaches Lojban and is set in space. Distribution is most likely to be online through YouTube and/or similar free access sites. The spoken English parts in it will be subtitled in Lojban, and the timings will be intended to allow for the show to be translated into other target languages in place of English. I'm the plot writer (to date) and I've volunteered to be a tween animator. The plot outline for the first episode is now complete except the temporary character names, see https://docs1.google.com/document/edit?id=1Figgelppx0xep5HC7GRConr445BHq3Oycb6uAB8tL2Y The root document is at https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=18hS5G3Qn7i4uqqZHMwZSk87B79jOxHeX_Yt-0u5wBaE The project does not require formal support at this stage. Volunteers to bolster the small team and fill in the gaps are always welcome. Lindar would like to report on projects ey's been working on or is otherwise involved in and a proposal, eirs report verbatim: ----- 1. selsnu gidva Unfortunately the idea died out in favour of other projects that need more immediate love. The concept was poorly executed due to my own ignorance of web technologies, but I would like to create a database of English and Lojban words with hashtags, and then users can browse semantic categories like "outdoors", "sports", or "kitchen and cooking" to find words, phrases, and concepts unique to these categories to allow for studying specific areas of vocabulary. As handy as this is, the primary idea is that users submit new English words and hashtag them with categories, and others come along to provide translations to Lojban, which cleverly provides us with larger bodies of vocabulary. This, after extensive review and a clever voting system, can fall into the hands of the people that will be writing the dictionary after the BPFK defs are done. 2. verba skina (Lojban Kids Show) This is a horrid beast that has run out of control. As of this e-mail, it's still very much in production and will not be done for a while. Pierre Abbat is working on mapping out the O'Neil Cylinder where this takes place, and then we'll be mapping out what buildings are what. We have people working on scripts, background, social structure, and fashion. I am also looking to have people develop an architectural style, accents, folklore, and music. It seems like many people have been very excited about the idea. The script and various documentation is available on Google Docs. With the LLG meeting coming up, apparently this is the hot topic to mention. So, yeah, I'm the producer and sound engineer to this lovely bit of work. 3. BPFK proposal. If the LLG or somebody can pay my rent (545$) for one month, I can spend that one month working 8-12 hours a day on BPFK definitions, which means that it might actually get done within a reasonable timeframe instead of sitting around being avoided. ----- kozmikreis