Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:40014) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RCdqU-0006ba-Sp; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:50:18 -0700 Received: by bkaq10 with SMTP id q10sf5076797bka.16 for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:50:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=h06s4YjXQbgRCnWLYrH7Ur7rJvNOU/QGcc5Ry8YY9FY=; b=SNvd5MFdXFOJC8a2ENTp+ZAFTh2mcWIib0U2qb22oT4HZSD/FZl8N0aCvX+ewdabpX eTnGjs6ejICzV8I1px51ZAsopPuOO9GFl+xVR/+Nugiag67HB8OwNi6Z7TjZy3iX0wk7 7z/oBfvinHAWzpzZi89Hxqx2ZEX5b7EXSjRHA= Received: by 10.223.6.26 with SMTP id 26mr2283896fax.1.1318106990837; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:49:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.15 with SMTP id q15ls2047797bks.0.gmail; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.144.202 with SMTP id a10mr389022bkv.0.1318106989872; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.144.202 with SMTP id a10mr389019bkv.0.1318106989838; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com (mail-bw0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10si2240040bkq.2.2011.10.08.13.49.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.43; Received: by mail-bw0-f43.google.com with SMTP id s6so7120486bka.2 for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:49:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.88.148 with SMTP id a20mr20540059fam.28.1318106989611; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.38.9 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:49:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 16:49:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Translating a (slightly inappropriate) joke From: Alex Rozenshteyn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151761c74ce4492b04aecfb26d X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --00151761c74ce4492b04aecfb26d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There needs to be an equivalent in lojban to "derp". {.oi ro'e se'i} doesn'= t have the same ring. {.e'e nai}? {.o'a nai}? New punch-line: {.i lasna lo ro xance be .ibu ti'a lo trixe} 2011/10/8 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote= : > > {.i lo itlo ku sisti lo nu ri tavla ku gau ta'i ma} > > {.i ciljongau lo ro .ibu xance ti'a lo trixe} > > > > Any subtleties that I messed up in the translation? > > "lo ro .ibu xance" is grammatical because "ro .ibu" is a quantifier, > who knows with what meaning, but "lo ro ra xance" would be > ungrammatical. > > You probably want "lo ro me .ibu xance" or "lo .ibu boi ro xance". > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 Alex R --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --00151761c74ce4492b04aecfb26d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There needs to be an equivalent in lojban to "derp". {.oi ro'= e se'i} doesn't have the same ring. {.e'e nai}? {.o'a nai}?=

New punch-line:
{.i lasna lo ro xance be .ibu ti'a lo trixe}=

2011/10/8 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <arozens1@jhu.edu> wrote:
> {.i lo itlo ku sisti lo nu ri tavla ku gau ta'i ma}
> {.i ciljongau lo ro .ibu xance ti'a lo trixe}
>
> Any subtleties that I messed up in the translation?

"lo ro .ibu xance" is grammatical because "ro .ibu&quo= t; is a quantifier,
who knows with what meaning, but "lo ro ra xance" would be
ungrammatical.

You probably want "lo ro me .ibu xance" or "lo .ibu boi ro x= ance".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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