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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] {pau} without e.g. {ma} or {xu}
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Also, don't forget about our good friend {pei}. Questions that aren't really
questions can be expressed like that.  e.g. "mi sruma lo du'u broda kei
.iepei".  This way you are basically tagging the "lo nu broda kei" with a
question of "do you agree with it" in stead of a plain ol'
boolean/fill-in-the-blank question word.  This is useful for other things as
well e.g. "mi'o citka lo plise .uiro'opei".  You're making a statement while
simultaniously asking how the listener feels about it.
On Oct 12, 2011 3:52 PM, "Pierre Abbat" <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> On Wednesday 12 October 2011 15:41:52 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
> > I just found myself, in English, ending a sentence that started with "I
> > assume" with a question mark.
> >
> > I was asking a question, but I had no question words in the sentence.
> >
> > {xu mi sruma ko'a} would translate as "Do I assume {ko'a}?", which is not
> > what I meant.
> >
> > Is {pau mi sruma ko'a} grammatical (I expect so)?
> > Is it a horrible misuse of {pau} (I hope not)?
> > Would you understand it, and would it offend your lojbanic sensibilities?
>
> It is grammatical, and "pau" can be used without a question word, but I'd
> have
> to see the sentence in context to judge whether it's right.
>
> Pierre
>
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<p>Also, don&#39;t forget about our good friend {pei}. Questions that aren&=
#39;t really questions can be expressed like that.=A0 e.g. &quot;mi sruma l=
o du&#39;u broda kei .iepei&quot;.=A0 This way you are basically tagging th=
e &quot;lo nu broda kei&quot; with a question of &quot;do you agree with it=
&quot; in stead of a plain ol&#39; boolean/fill-in-the-blank question word.=
=A0 This is useful for other things as well e.g. &quot;mi&#39;o citka lo pl=
ise .uiro&#39;opei&quot;.=A0 You&#39;re making a statement while simultanio=
usly asking how the listener feels about it.</p>

<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Oct 12, 2011 3:52 PM, &quot;Pierre Abbat&quot=
; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@phma.optus.nu">phma@phma.optus.nu</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Wednesday 12 October 2011 15:41:52 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:<br>
&gt; I just found myself, in English, ending a sentence that started with &=
quot;I<br>
&gt; assume&quot; with a question mark.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I was asking a question, but I had no question words in the sentence.<=
br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; {xu mi sruma ko&#39;a} would translate as &quot;Do I assume {ko&#39;a}=
?&quot;, which is not<br>
&gt; what I meant.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Is {pau mi sruma ko&#39;a} grammatical (I expect so)?<br>
&gt; Is it a horrible misuse of {pau} (I hope not)?<br>
&gt; Would you understand it, and would it offend your lojbanic sensibiliti=
es?<br>
<br>
It is grammatical, and &quot;pau&quot; can be used without a question word,=
 but I&#39;d have<br>
to see the sentence in context to judge whether it&#39;s right.<br>
<br>
Pierre<br>
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