Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:52286) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RGFYm-0001XG-Jw; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:42:53 -0700 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf1109773bka.16 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:42:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=BLL9PWbHy3avnNrn2B/IlKZhaRc503aOuhMCZwi+UW0=; b=DckevYMqYRdPaFpJiZwJt37HgmFCcAedeBmQDggiOm5r0AfgbB5WmZhm6rrFvGq5Yd a6RSPWEf3Kf3fBm48lsNhn86rioqEz5cw4X6Om7AvDVN+xNhc240JmP78+1T2lX6rCJQ 7o5fS1RGLsCQvdWEgf/jDSfunJ49r+pzsJ2rs= Received: by 10.223.57.140 with SMTP id c12mr1107457fah.8.1318966949110; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:42:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.134.87 with SMTP id i23ls579990bkt.2.gmail; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.84 with SMTP id o20mr481876bkv.6.1318966947927; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.84 with SMTP id o20mr481875bkv.6.1318966947899; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f46.google.com (mail-bw0-f46.google.com [209.85.214.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10si493518bkq.2.2011.10.18.12.42.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.46; Received: by bkbzt19 with SMTP id zt19so1162471bkb.19 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:42:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.15.194 with SMTP id l2mr2804997bka.83.1318966947584; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.81.73 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:42:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201110180809.20219.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201110180809.20219.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:42:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] How to say "face down" or "facing" From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151743f7a6619a4904af97ec4d X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --00151743f7a6619a4904af97ec4d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would think you would want "...fi'o telmla lo ckana [/lo loldi]" But maybe that's just me. --gejyspa On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday 18 October 2011 05:42:18 Sebastian Fr=F6jd wrote: > > I'm not proficient enough in lojban to help you with this one. I just > > notice that in swedish you almost never say that you're lying face up o= r > > face down. Instead you say that you're "lying on [your] back" or "lying > on > > [your] belly". Perhaps that's easier to express in lojban. > > That would be "mi vreta fi le trixe" or "mi vreta fi le crane", but x3 > of "vreta" is not defined (x3 of "sanli" is, but not "zutse"). > > The directions "anterior" and "posterior" don't match the direction of > locomotion in humans the same way they do in most mammals. How is this > expressed in Lojban? > > Pierre > -- > When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. > J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. 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=A0 I would think you would want "...fi'o te= lmla lo ckana [/lo loldi]"=A0 But maybe that's just me.
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.n= u> wrote:
On Tuesday 18 October 2011 05:42:18 Sebastian Fr=F6jd wro= te:
> I'm not proficient enough in lojban to help you with this o= ne. I just
> notice that in swedish you almost never say that you'= ;re lying face up or
> face down. Instead you say that you're "lying on [your] back&= quot; or "lying on
> [your] belly". Perhaps that's easi= er to express in lojban.

That would be "mi vreta fi le tr= ixe" or "mi vreta fi le crane", but x3
of "vreta" is not defined (x3 of "sanli" is, but not &q= uot;zutse").

The directions "anterior" and "post= erior" don't match the direction of
locomotion in humans the sa= me way they do in most mammals. How is this
expressed in Lojban?

Pierre
--
When a = barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada,= j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada.

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