Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:50283) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RGFin-0001aE-VS; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:53:16 -0700 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf1130311bka.16 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:53:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=2YAJ7TCXE0S/5wHTunG5lbGD/Y2bO3nd7cDua9H8hQA=; b=pO72MKiqlNzeGBQgfIQap5C+EV/sNQbjnwcXm4dh3ch/iR6YVK69UN59FrQhCOFlgw H8rc0gPhOHI4qtp/PQRhEf31ntZaOk8f3hyb19rSEZFzKZwAqkhNHynlhdVDMgVd0lgA dbuLhVgr4bw8kTJlzWLqFUaokwkvMhLoBP6Gk= Received: by 10.223.62.84 with SMTP id w20mr625066fah.10.1318967570439; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:52:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.143.25 with SMTP id s25ls94186bku.0.gmail; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.156.195 with SMTP id y3mr489539bkw.4.1318967568138; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.156.195 with SMTP id y3mr489538bkw.4.1318967568108; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f46.google.com (mail-bw0-f46.google.com [209.85.214.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v13si498628bkf.0.2011.10.18.12.52.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.46; Received: by mail-bw0-f46.google.com with SMTP id zt19so1170909bkb.19 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.135.24 with SMTP id l24mr2861922bkt.57.1318967567950; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.81.73 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:52:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201110180809.20219.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:52:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] How to say "face down" or "facing" From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173fe8a05ba5c904af981116 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --0015173fe8a05ba5c904af981116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fair point! termla, of course. Thanks for the correction. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > the hell do locks have to do with anything? zo'o > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Michael Turniansky > wrote: > >> I would think you would want "...fi'o telmla lo ckana [/lo loldi]" >> But maybe that's just me. >> --gejyspa >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Pierre Abbat wrot= e: >> >>> On Tuesday 18 October 2011 05:42:18 Sebastian Fr=F6jd wrote: >>> > I'm not proficient enough in lojban to help you with this one. I just >>> > notice that in swedish you almost never say that you're lying face up >>> or >>> > face down. Instead you say that you're "lying on [your] back" or "lyi= ng >>> on >>> > [your] belly". Perhaps that's easier to express in lojban. >>> >>> That would be "mi vreta fi le trixe" or "mi vreta fi le crane", but x3 >>> of "vreta" is not defined (x3 of "sanli" is, but not "zutse"). >>> >>> The directions "anterior" and "posterior" don't match the direction of >>> locomotion in humans the same way they do in most mammals. How is this >>> expressed in Lojban? >>> >>> Pierre >>> -- >>> When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. >>> J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps >>> "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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=A0 Fair point!=A0 termla, of course.=A0 Thanks for the co= rrection.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gma= il.com> wrote:
the hell do locks have to do wit= h anything? zo'o=20


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Michael Turnian= sky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0 I would think you would want "...fi'o telmla lo ckana [/l= o loldi]"=A0 But maybe that's just me.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Tuesday 18 October 2011 05:42:18 Sebastian Fr=F6jd wrote:
> I= 'm not proficient enough in lojban to help you with this one. I just> notice that in swedish you almost never say that you're lying fac= e up or
> face down. Instead you say that you're "lying on [your] back&= quot; or "lying on
> [your] belly". Perhaps that's easi= er to express in lojban.

That would be "mi vreta fi le tr= ixe" or "mi vreta fi le crane", but x3
of "vreta" is not defined (x3 of "sanli" is, but not &q= uot;zutse").

The directions "anterior" and "post= erior" don't match the direction of
locomotion in humans the sa= me way they do in most mammals. How is this
expressed in Lojban?

Pierre
--
When a = barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada,= j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada.

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