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On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 4:29 PM, H. Felton <lojban707@fagricipni.com> wrote:

> mi'e fagri cipni
>
> lo se lifri be mi be'o ku to'e cinri
> My life is boring.
>
> I'm not sure that "be" ... "be'o" is the best way to get the
> reference to "mi"; ie, referring to _my_ life in to the second
> place of "se lifri".
>

Unless you're being formal,

{lo mi se lifri ku to'e cinri}   is perfectly fine -- it's equivalent to

{lo se lifri pe mi to'e cinri}.

You can fill in the x1 place if you want, but I would expect people to
typically understand the simpler option of filling {se lifri}'s inner
quantifier, and understand it quicker -- the only other reasonable
interpretation would be "life around me is boring" (in some vague causative
sense, that you *make* life boring).

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n <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lojban707@fagricipni.com">lojban7=
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mi&#39;e fagri cipni<br>
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lo se lifri be mi be&#39;o ku to&#39;e cinri<br>
My life is boring.<br>
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ay to get the<br>
reference to &quot;mi&quot;; ie, referring to _my_ life in to the second<br=
>
place of &quot;se lifri&quot;.<br></blockquote><div><br>Unless you&#39;re b=
eing formal, <br><br>{lo mi se lifri ku to&#39;e cinri}=A0=A0 is perfectly =
fine -- it&#39;s equivalent to<br><br>{lo se lifri pe mi to&#39;e cinri}. <=
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<br>You can fill in the x1 place if you want, but I would expect people to =
typically understand the simpler option of filling {se lifri}&#39;s inner q=
uantifier, and understand it quicker -- the only other reasonable interpret=
ation would be &quot;life around me is boring&quot; (in some vague causativ=
e sense, that you *make* life boring).<br>
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