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[69.5.18.101]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id s16si11237022ane.3.2011.11.07.01.56.29; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 01:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of lojban707@fagricipni.com designates 69.5.18.101 as permitted sender) client-ip=69.5.18.101; Received: (qmail 798 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2011 09:56:29 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [67.58.190.131] Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: "mi prami do" or "mi cu prami do" ? From: "H. Felton" To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: References: <28766495.1817.1310280099392.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqyy3> <246b16f2-c892-4fd0-b329-96271b271bf1@k8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> <201108030757.27094.jezuch@interia.pl> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 04:56:26 -0500 Message-ID: <1320659787.1913.0.camel@fagricipni-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 X-Original-Sender: lojban707@fagricipni.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of lojban707@fagricipni.com designates 69.5.18.101 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban707@fagricipni.com; domainkeys=pass header.From=lojban707@fagricipni.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / The first sentences of http://dag.github.com/cll/20/ give an=20 explanation of that: The following paragraphs list all the selma'o of Lojban,=20 with a brief explanation of what each one is about, and=20 reference to the chapter number where each is explained=20 more fully. As usual, all selma'o names are given in=20 capital letters (with "h" serving as the capital of "'")=20 and are the names of a representative cmavo, often the most=20 important or the first in alphabetical order. In short, the cmavo are divided in to cmavo _types_; these=20 types are named by capitalizing a chosen cmavo of that type. =20 The LE type includes: le, lo, le'e, lo'e, le'i, lo'i, lei, loi. =20 In _The_Complete_Lojban_Language_=20 ( http://dag.github.com/cll/ ); when a cmavo is described, the=20 selma'o is given; eg, the very first part of=20 http://dag.github.com/cll/6/2/ . =20 The "ku"s are closing the "lo"s which are of selma'o "LE". On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 09:05 +0100, Paul Predkiewicz wrote: > Hi, > i'm not very new to lojban but don't find as much time to study it as > i would like to, which is probably why im wondering what you mean by > le; since there is no le in "lo nanmu ku prami lo ninmu". So what does > ku close? >=20 >=20 >=20 > 2011/8/3 Krzysztof Sobolewski : > > Dnia =B6roda, 3 sierpnia 2011 o 07:38:56 Remo Dentato napisa=B3(a): > >> It is needed in {lo nanmu cu prami lo ninmu} because otherwise {lo > >> nanmu prami} would be a "masculine type of love"} > > > > Some would be quick to point out that it's not "needed" because you can= say {lo nanmu ku prami lo ninmu [ku]}, properly closing all your LE :) > > -- > > Ecce Jezuch > > "Sick of my life. I'm tired of everything > > In my life. I never wanted to be sick > > Of my life. I'm tired of everything in my life." - S. Erna > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Znajdz samochod idealny dla siebie! > > Szukaj >> http://linkint.pl/f2a0a > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps "Lojban Beginners" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscr= ibe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lo= jban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > > > >=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.