Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:40547) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RNNEd-0001b5-CK; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:19:35 -0800 Received: by vcbfo11 with SMTP id fo11sf2617013vcb.16 for ; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:19:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iHwTnlbXiyoWR3hEm+qb0IDgtflxZcTQbBK25KU4V0Q=; b=VtBkOQvYq8Zf0LAZZZ/NHsT3X6OdYWkW7IpAGcFyZosPoh4fTfFz7p8XQR0daX+t9p CVazJBNqhsxiQOS6wefmdL2sVsJpK7R4lH/icIl52VpMoQemuYNVvCbTZx12R/Kx2gU2 Ur+sutxfdDVDwAl4ArGt57DglVJ9wJ2qP0bp8= Received: by 10.52.107.196 with SMTP id he4mr332407vdb.7.1320664754073; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:19:14 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.77.42 with SMTP id p10ls7630217vdw.2.gmail; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.30.195 with SMTP id u3mr25146945vdh.3.1320664753304; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.30.195 with SMTP id u3mr25146944vdh.3.1320664753295; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vx0-f174.google.com (mail-vx0-f174.google.com [209.85.220.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c19si10952935vdd.1.2011.11.07.03.19.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.174; Received: by mail-vx0-f174.google.com with SMTP id f1so2432615vcb.5 for ; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.20.207 with SMTP id p15mr25728102vde.87.1320664753117; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:19:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.177.2 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 03:18:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1320659787.1913.0.camel@fagricipni-desktop> References: <28766495.1817.1310280099392.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqyy3> <246b16f2-c892-4fd0-b329-96271b271bf1@k8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> <201108030757.27094.jezuch@interia.pl> <1320659787.1913.0.camel@fagricipni-desktop> From: Paul Predkiewicz Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:18:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: "mi prami do" or "mi cu prami do" ? To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Ah, thank you, very interesting. There is so much to learn, i often don't know where to start... 2011/11/7 H. Felton : > The first sentences of http://dag.github.com/cll/20/ give an > explanation of that: > > =A0 =A0The following paragraphs list all the selma'o of Lojban, > =A0 =A0with a brief explanation of what each one is about, and > =A0 =A0reference to the chapter number where each is explained > =A0 =A0more fully. As usual, all selma'o names are given in > =A0 =A0capital letters (with "h" serving as the capital of "'") > =A0 =A0and are the names of a representative cmavo, often the most > =A0 =A0important or the first in alphabetical order. > > In short, the cmavo are divided in to cmavo _types_; these > types are named by capitalizing a chosen cmavo of that type. > The LE type includes: le, lo, le'e, lo'e, le'i, lo'i, lei, loi. > In _The_Complete_Lojban_Language_ > ( http://dag.github.com/cll/ ); when a cmavo is described, the > selma'o is given; eg, the very first part of > http://dag.github.com/cll/6/2/ . > > The "ku"s are closing the "lo"s which are of selma'o "LE". > > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 09:05 +0100, Paul Predkiewicz wrote: >> Hi, >> i'm not very new to lojban but don't find as much time to study it as >> i would like to, which is probably why im wondering what you mean by >> le; since there is no le in "lo nanmu ku prami lo ninmu". So what does >> ku close? >> >> >> >> 2011/8/3 Krzysztof Sobolewski : >> > Dnia =B6roda, 3 sierpnia 2011 o 07:38:56 Remo Dentato napisa=B3(a): >> >> It is needed in {lo nanmu cu prami lo ninmu} because otherwise {lo >> >> nanmu prami} would be a "masculine type of love"} >> > >> > Some would be quick to point out that it's not "needed" because you ca= n say {lo nanmu ku prami lo ninmu [ku]}, properly closing all your LE :) >> > -- >> > Ecce Jezuch >> > "Sick of my life. I'm tired of everything >> > In my life. I never wanted to be sick >> > Of my life. I'm tired of everything in my life." - S. Erna >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Znajdz samochod idealny dla siebie! >> > Szukaj >> http://linkint.pl/f2a0a >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro= ups "Lojban Beginners" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com= . >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubsc= ribe@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/l= ojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> > >> > >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscrib= e@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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