=A0Sure, I have no problem with sedyfa'a for ante= rior, rebyfa'a for posterior, cutfa'a for ventral, tolcutfa'a f= or dorsal, jbifa'a for proximal, and darfa'a for distal.

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa

=A0

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd &= lt;so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:

From wikipedia: Terms_for_anatomical_location which I think could intere= st most jbopli:

"Standard anatomical terms of location a= re employed in science which deal with the anatomy of animals to avoid ambiguities which might otherwise arise. They are not= language-specific, and thus require no translation. They are universal ter= ms that may be readily understood by zoologists who speak any= language.

While these terms are standardized within specific fields of b= iology, they can differ dramatically from one discipline to another. Di= fferences in terminology remain a problem that, to some extent, still separ= ates the fields of zoological anatomy (sometimes called zootomy) and human (medical) anatomy (sometimes called= androtomy).
The Craniata (vertebrates) share a substantial heritage of = common structure, allowing much of the same terminology to be used for all = of them. It is necessary for this terminology to be based on the anatomy of= the animal in a standard way to avoid ambiguities such as might occur if a= word such as "top" were used, which might designate the head= of a human but the left or right side of a floun= der."=20

2011/11/12 jongausib <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com= >

This is above my lev= el of lojban I think, but couldn't we try to make
more exact anatomi= cal definitions of directions and positions
(especially of the human body)?
Such definitions would be very useful as= parts of tanru/lujvo.
I'm really interested in the movements of hum= an bodies, and I really
enjoy watching parkour, skateboarding, gymnastic= s, martial arts, yoga,
dancing etc etc.
Of course you could just borrow words from each discipl= ine (fu'ivla)
when you need to describe a special type of movement/t= rick, but I also
think that lojban has the potential of creating a more = universal
language of movements. At least such lujvos would be very useful to
desc= ribe common positions/movements like squatting, kneeling, lying
face dow= n/up, but also perhaps to describe more complex movements like
different= kind of cartwheels, volts, rotations, somersaults, ollie,
kong, lotus position, martial techniques etc etc etc.

The starting-p= oint could be :
http://en.wikipedia.org/w= iki/Anatomical_terms_of_location#Directional_terms.

ok, you may think I'm too ambitious and that it's better to lea= ve
everything vague than to be too normative, but if everything is left<= br>vague you'll never be able to be precise when you want to. And I wou= ld
really appreciate if you with better skills than me could translate
the = anatomical concepts in the wikipedia article (linked above) into
lojban.=

/a'o. ki'ecai mi'e jongausib

On 23 Okt, 02:21, Michael Turniansky <mturnian...@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>> =A0 Yes, but of course you are to the side of something (for exampl= e, you are
> to the side of the bed from the reference frame of =A0a fly on the wal= l who is
> facing an adjacent wall). =A0In fact you are to the side o= f infinitely many
> things. =A0But since you are not specifying the s= elmla or the velmla, we
> really don't care what they are. =A0We are merely extracting the t= ermla as a
> useful way of specifying your orientation. (But I didn&#= 39;t mean for you to
> lose the lo ckana in the x2 of vreta. =A0That = should still be there -- "mi
> vreta lo ckana fi'o termla vo'e", for example).
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at = 4:03 PM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd <so.cool....@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> > you mean termla? mi vreta fi'o termla lo ckana (= that would be something
> > like "I lie facing the bed to the= side of something"?)
>
> > 2011/10/18 Michael Tu= rniansky <mtu= rnian...@gmail.com>

>
> >> =A0 Fair point! =A0termla, of course. =A0Thanks = for the correction.
>
> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at = 3:44 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeaber...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> >>> the hell do locks have to do with anything? = zo'o
>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mich= ael Turniansky <

> >>> mturnian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>= ; =A0 =A0I would think you would want "...fi'o telmla lo ckana [/l= o loldi]"
> >>>> But maybe that's just me.
> >>>>= ; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa
>
> >>>&= gt; =A0 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Pierre Abbat <p...@phma.optus.nu>wrote:

>
> >>>>> On Tuesday 18 October 2011 05:42:18 = Sebastian Fr=F6jd wrote:
> >>>>> > I'm not prof= icient enough in lojban to help you with this one. I just
> >>&= gt;>> > notice that in swedish you almost never say that you'r= e lying face up
> >>>>> or
> >>>>> > face down. I= nstead you say that you're "lying on [your] back" or
> = >>>>> "lying on
> >>>>> > [your= ] belly". Perhaps that's easier to express in lojban.
>
> >>>>> That would be "mi vreta fi le trixe&= quot; or "mi vreta fi le crane", but x3
> >>>>&= gt; of "vreta" is not defined (x3 of "sanli" is, but no= t "zutse").
>
> >>>>> The directions "anterior" and &= quot;posterior" don't match the direction of
> >>>&= gt;> locomotion in humans the same way they do in most mammals. How is t= his
> >>>>> expressed in Lojban?
>
> >>>= >> Pierre
> >>>>> --
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