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I don't believe a word of that. Especially the part about "intellectual
exercise".

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Lee Carlson <lorddraqo@gmail.com> wrote:

> This has been revisited from time-to-time and the outcome is always that *
> curses* and such are deeply invested in cultural context. As such a
> language that is designed to be culturally neutral does not provide curses
> outside of the cultural context of the particular user. For anyone is
> raised with lojban as their primary language, the concept of cursing, and
> expletives will likely be an intellectual exercise, rather than an
> emotional outburst.
>
> mi'e brais
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Is it just me, or is this group rather slow of late?
>>>
>>> Well, in part to spark up some conversation on here, and in part because
>>> I'd like to be able to curse in Lojban, I'm proposing we come up with some
>>> Lojbanic curses.
>>>
>>> And I don't necessarily mean shit, fuck, damn, etc. I mean more along
>>> the lines of "You pea-brained sack of twat-juice!", or "Cum-guzzling gutter
>>> slut!" or "Republican" (that last one was a joke).
>>>
>>> So, to start things off, here's one from me:
>>>
>>> tolmencrerai : x1 is a fucking retard (not in the mental disability
>>> sense) to x2 because of x3
>>>
>>> i.e. {do tolmencrerai fi lonu lo do carce pu daspo lo mi rozgu} = "You
>>> fucking retard! You ran over my roses!"
>>>
>>
>> Actually, a better translation would probably be "You're a fucking retard
>> for running over my roses!"
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>>
>>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
>>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>
>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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>
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I don&#39;t believe a word of that. Especially the part about &quot;intelle=
ctual exercise&quot;.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 16, 201=
1 at 5:10 PM, Lee Carlson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lorddraqo=
@gmail.com">lorddraqo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font color=3D"#003300"><font face=3D"comic =
sans ms,sans-serif">This has been revisited from time-to-time and the outco=
me is always that <i>curses</i> and such are deeply invested in cultural co=
ntext. As such a language that is designed to be culturally neutral does no=
t provide curses outside of the cultural context of the particular user. Fo=
r anyone is raised with lojban as their primary language, the concept of cu=
rsing, and expletives will likely be an intellectual exercise, rather than =
an emotional outburst.<br>

<br>mi&#39;e brais<br></font></font><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><di=
v></div><div class=3D"h5">On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Jonathan Jones =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5=
">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Jonathan J=
ones <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">


Is it just me, or is this group rather slow of late?<br><br>Well, in part t=
o spark up some conversation on here, and in part because I&#39;d like to b=
e able to curse in Lojban, I&#39;m proposing we come up with some Lojbanic =
curses.<br>



<br>And I don&#39;t necessarily mean shit, fuck, damn, etc. I mean more alo=
ng the lines of &quot;You pea-brained sack of twat-juice!&quot;, or &quot;C=
um-guzzling gutter slut!&quot; or &quot;Republican&quot; (that last one was=
 a joke).<br>



<br>So, to start things off, here&#39;s one from me:<br><br>tolmencrerai : =
x1 is a fucking retard (not in the mental disability sense) to x2 because o=
f x3<br><br>i.e. {do tolmencrerai fi lonu lo do carce pu daspo lo mi rozgu}=
 =3D &quot;You fucking retard! You ran over my roses!&quot;<br clear=3D"all=
">


</blockquote></div><div><br>Actually, a better translation would probably b=
e &quot;You&#39;re a fucking retard for running over my roses!&quot; <br></=
div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">


<font color=3D"#888888">
<br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo piln=
o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Lu=
ke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>
</font></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div></div><div =
class=3D"h5"><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br=
><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo=
&#39;o<br>
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br>

<br>

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